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[Atlantic Monthly] The Humiliation of Aziz Ansari

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Dairy Ashford, Jan 15, 2018.

  1. Rocket River

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    That was had me perplexed as well

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  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Why because he's a short Indian man? We all know what you are. Just come out and admit it.
     
  3. Drexlerfan22

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    Unfortunately, in today's short attention-span world, I don't know that the public can be reliably expected to read past the headline. So it's entirely within the realm of possibility that this is hurting his career even with people who wouldn't believe he did anything wrong, had they taken an extra few minutes to get the details.
     
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    This is my sentiment as well. Vitriol is a son-of-a-witch!
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  5. mtbrays

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    This is insane. Were her "clear non-verbal cues" given before the first or second blow job? Hit pieces like this delegitimize actual criminal behavior.

    Edit: I also think this could have been handled better. It sounds like he was clumsy in the situation, and maybe aggressive, but how exactly is he supposed to interpret things when there are three instances of consensual oral sex that evening? Or her sticking around, nude, not leaving and hoping he would "stroke her hair" or "rub her back" to "calm her down"? This idea of women only being expected to give silent, "non-verbal cues" and men constantly gauging for those cues in between moments of consensual sex seems like it would create an almost impossible situation for participants. Agency for all participants needs to be a thing and it sounds like she didn't fully exhibit it by sticking around, never outright saying "no penetrative sex tonight" and not vocalizing anything she was thinking.

    It sounds like only after she discussed this with others did she see it as "sexual assault" which, as most seem to be pointing out, this doesn't appear to fall under. And, since there doesn't appear to be any legal violation on Ansari's part, I take issue with her kissing and telling after she'd privately spoken about this with him and he expressed contrition, apologizing immediately. An adult should've ended it right then and there. If there's no crime, why publish this except to drag down somebody who doesn't deserve it?
     
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  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    It's ****ing time

     
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  7. SirIvyLeague

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    @Nook this guy said it better than me.

    Society shouldn't need to judge, this shouldn't even be a story. This isn't a crime, this is just bullshit thrown against the wall that stuck because of the time we're in. Not because it's actually legitimate.

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  8. SirIvyLeague

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    Oh absolutely, ever since I've been active sexually if a white guy(white only) knows i've been with a girl they without a doubt, won't be with that girl. I'm brasilian and swiss, I can pass off as light skin(black) or that's what most people think. I got zero african american in me, zero. I have mainly white friends, when we go out they get PISSED if i hook up with somebody they had their eyes on(even if I didn't try). I've had a lot of white girls when I lived in Houston that they told me they find me extremely attractive, but can never be seen actually dating me. I had three girls use me as their side piece, but would never admit being with a man with any color to them and will openly go against interracial couples(how funny).

    As for your cuck statement, we usually say that to white boys. Seriously, you'll see girls in Vegas come up and ask us men of different color if we can do them cause their husband or partner is a cuck. Or they just married a rich older dude, but need to get some...and the guys understand. They ****ing understand!!!

    To your point, yes, I don't know what her point is. That Aziz is just like any other dude? Okay. Did he commit a crime? No. Did she regret ****ing him and blowing him? Yes. Alright, move on. Is that a crime, again? No.

    Okay, what's the point here besides defamation. If I'm Aziz, I say I spent a night with her, did absolutely nothing wrong by her accounts, and not understanding why this is being brought up. If she regrets being with me, I'm not sure what to say but I hope she finds someone she's happy and doesn't regret being with.

    As I write that, I realize it makes me think she's upset that Aziz didn't try to make her, his girlfriend.

    SIL
     
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  9. Daedalus

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    The implication is that they are pissed due to your skin. If you believe they are racists, why are you still friends with them?

    BTW, i'm white & have had friends pissed at me when i've pulled someone they fancied...and vice versa. Jealousy.
     
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    Wow. 13 years later and that doesn't even seem funny anymore (no fault of Chapelle's). It seems like something they show incoming college students about how to get consent these days.
     
  12. SirIvyLeague

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    Outside of steal yo girl, we get along. Travel, basketball, parties, concerts, work, etc.

    Just girls.

    SIL
     
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    When it comes to sex, the French (and others) seem to have more open views than our Victorian-tinged American perspective. I can only speak for myself, but the education I received on sex was woefully inadequate and many adults who were in a position to teach were sheepish about the subject.
     
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    I had a similar situation as Aziz when I was in HS. Totally didn't realize anything was wrong, and still don't fully understand what happened or why she was upset. It was with somebody I loved and had been intimate before and after the incident, so not a one night stand by any means in my case. She told somebody else that I tried to rape her (not true). It was hard.
     
  16. Daedalus

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    Dude, the context of your post was that they resented a "black" man pulling "white" girls. Seems racist to me. I'd have more self-respect than be friends with that sort.
     
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    The country is not really the point. You should read the article as it has to do with the topic.
     
  18. RocketsLegend

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    no, because he's self admitted male feminists.

    Is race baiting all you do?
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It's being a racist all you do?

    By the way being a feminist only means you see both sexes as worthy of being treated equally
     
  20. RocketsLegend

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    Name of thing I said that was racist. Becuase of idiots like you real racism isn't been taken seriously anymore.


    "RACIST RACIST RACIST RACIST RACIST"

    Like a bunch of ****ing parrots.
     

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