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Donatas gone

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Dec 15, 2016.

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  1. Houtho

    Houtho Member

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    I am super confused with this whole situation

    How much do we have to pay dmo (this season?)
     
  2. Tha_Dude

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    Nothing, he's a UFA now and can work the market with his BJ buddy.
     
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    I guess he got what he wanted all along. I'm pretty disappointed how this whole situation played out. On the one hand I wish D-Mo would have bought in and committed when we matched, but I also somewhat wish Morey wouldn't have been so stubborn. The smart "positive EV" approach was to use our obvious leverage against D-Mo to save a bit but there is a human aspect to this. Was the extra couple of million really worth it? D-Mo could have been a solid rotation piece at least. Disappointing.
     
  4. daywalker02

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    Ok, fellas. Glad it is over now.

    Good for the Front Office, they solved a major puzzle, you don't want his problems be your problems.

    Good for Donatas, he can roam free. wherever he wants to be. Go to the woods where there are not one wolf, not 2, not 3......

    I am sadder because of Sager right now.
     
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    This doesn't happen with a player the Rockets really like or see a lot of value in.
     
  6. ricardo1979

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    So Morey in the end decided to pull the plug. The medical report must have been something that in the end made the Rockets decided to pull the plug.
     
  7. Tfor3

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    Good riddance
     
  8. daywalker02

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    Yup, but Morey liked the player to the extent of warranting this big drama. I sure hope he acts smarter the next time when a Euro player is involved.
     
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    1) I don't see Motiejunas signing with the Jazz. Their big rotation is fairly full with Gobert, Favors, Diaw, and Lyles as well as Joe Johnson and Ingles who can both fill in as small ball 4's. I suppose there's always a chance, but with Favors back now I'd be surprised.

    2) It makes absolutely no sense that the Nets can't sign him now. What did they do wrong? Signed him to a RFA contract, Rockets matched, shitshow ensued and D-Mo's rights were renounced making him an UFA. Why would the Nets not be allowed to sign him again now if they wanted to? I'm not seeing any logic behind that and they appear to be getting screwed for no reason.
     
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  10. daywalker02

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    I sure hope his career won't as shortlived as some folks think. May he play for another 3 years and back to Europe he goes.

    http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets...the-rights-to-Donatas-Motiejunas-10799510.php
     
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  11. Batman Jones

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    How exactly would you suggest he "act smarter?" Name one thing you think he did wrong.
     
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  12. Nivos

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    I can promise you that for sure.
    D-mo is not going to get a better offer than what he got from us.
    He's going to get a very bad 1 yr deal to prove his worth and then maybe get to the 7-8 million/yr if he's healthy next year.
    Sad story bro...
     
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  13. Nick

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    Or if the player is actually healthy.
     
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    Wrong is too strong a word. But he could have let him go earlier.

    After the trade to Motor City, Morey could have worked things out with DMo.

    Morey: Dmo, we appreciated your 4 years here and we like to give you a chance to go out there and find your next contract. We won't stop you and we wish you good luck.

    And that whole thing would have ended.

    Euros have more opportunities, they can go and stay overseas, earn a whole lot of Benjamins there to the point they do not even want to go to the NBA.

    You and I know that Donatas has not played up to expectations, people may argue he might have done as much as TJones who was sorted out prior to this.

    As much as I liked his talent, let's not fool ourselves, he aint no more than his 12 pt and 6 rbs. average and usually he has just been a 10 and 5 pts player.
     
  15. K-Low_4_Prez

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    This guy just needs to go back to Euroleague or something and definitely should fire whoever is giving him advice...

    Also I winder how jacked up his back is cause it seems the Rockets and other teams see it to be a huge red flag im interested on who takes a flyer on him perhaps someone like the Clippers. I don't doubt he can be a decent NBA player but he needs to figure out what he wants.
     
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  16. Nick

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    Why would he just give away a player that had just been a key contributor? That had just been able to fetch a first round pick for?

    The Rockets owned his rights and were entirely within reason to either try to get something for him when they could OR keep him and try and salvage some value for their team.

    In the end, they did exactly what you asked for. Gave him a chance to go out and get the best contract he could. Once he did, they matched.

    It's not the teams fault that his back is f'd up beyond repair. Chances are he also fails his physical at his next destination, however at a vastly reduced rate, some team may take a flyer.
     
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  17. Batman Jones

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    They wanted him back. And if he didn't want to be back they wanted him at least as a piece in a trade. As was their right as he was a restricted free agent.

    So what you're saying is it would be smart to renounce a player we have rights to and that we want on our team. Or it would be smart to release any RFA that doesn't want to be here. Just make them unrestricted. What the hell! Give them a bonus too just for the hell of it.

    Hopefully you'll cut it out with these false equivalencies and "Morey should have been better" or "smarter" or weirdly declaring your allegiance to the player in the player/front office dispute as you've also done lately, in direct opposition to every single fact we know about the situation.

    If you can't point to one thing you think Morey should have done differently (and you just proved you most certainly cannot) I think it would be in order for you to stop saying he should have done better.
     
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  18. Batman Jones

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    Of course they were. daywalker announced yesterday or the day before that he had just decided to take the player's side in the conflict. He didn't give a reason. He just felt like siding with a player. He hasn't made rational sense in the last few days.
     
  19. Batman Jones

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    The question wasn't how much to pay him for a single season. It was how many years to commit to him when we don't know his current value and when no other team in the league was willing to pay more. If a player wants more than the QO he goes out and signs an offer sheet and brings it back to match or not. D-Mo/BJ didn't like that he was in RFA so they just sort of refused to be in it. They whined and made enough trouble that it was better to just frigging cut him than to sign him or get value for him. It was never over a few million here or there. It was over D-Mo negotiating this contract like it was last, signing the dumbest/most-team friendly offer sheet ever with the Nets (only 5 mil guaranteed, tons of opt-outs, not only no second year but not even this whole season guaranteed), demanding a new deal because his agent didn't read the CBA, getting a new (more team-friendly deal but with the bonuses included) and apparently couldn't be made happy by that either. He couldn't be made happy by either of the deals he said he wanted. Apparently he just couldn't be made happy.

    I'd ask you what I asked daywalker. Exactly what would you have done differently if you were Morey? Offer a few more million? Because that wasn't going to get it done. They put themselves in a situation without a guaranteed second year and then they blamed Morey for not guaranteeing a second year. I honestly think they thought the Rockets wouldn't match even though the contract the Nets gave him to sign made it look like BJ was working for the Rockets, not D-Mo.

    How exactly was Morey "stubborn?"
     
  20. Rocket River

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    Honestly . .. Like I said before. . .. Seems like this result will benefit BJ and his other clients more than DMo

    Rocket River
     
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