A simple way of discouraging superteams: this will work

I thought it was just me. KD going to GSW had NOTHING to do with bird rights. Bird rights only allow the team he has been with for 3 years exceed the cap to sign him.

GSW did NOT exceed the cap to get KD nor do they have bird rights. They simply had the available cap space with the ballooning of the salary cap this year to sign him outright. If KD opts out next year (as it is assumed he will) GSW will STILL not have bird rights and must use available room to sign him.

How it DOES help GSW is that Curry is a FA and they can exceed the cap with his bird rights to re-sign him. So you will likely see KD opt out and resign for his 200 million dollar contract using their available room and then exceep their cap to resign Curry after that.

 

I believe that's OP's point. It's not necessarily Durant specifically he's talking about. It's the fact that GSW can go over the cap to retain Curry because of Durant going this year as opposed to next year. Timing is everything, and things have worked out swimmingly for GSW.

 

OK, so instead of Bird Exceptions getting set back to Year 0, you do away with any of them ever being used again. I assume Durant would have just signed a 4-yr instead of the 1+1.

Basically what you're suggesting is a Hard Cap, except the teams who had original draft rights (via picking the player or trade prior to signing first contract) can go over the Hard Cap to sign their own vets.

Thus: A hard cap with one exception (signing your own drafted players).

I guess I could see that as a possibility.

 

OP is saying Curry, Klay and Draymond retain their Bird Rights...but Durant cannot resign with GSW again with any exception. They'd have to go back under the cap to resign Durant.

 

Steph Curry is the best player in the NBA

 

1. No he really isn't, he's the best shooter in the NBA.

2. Why do I care?

3. What does that have to do with super teams?

 

That's what he thought when Lebron left for Miami. Maturity and age made him realize his window for a championship is beginning to close in OKC. Especially considering Westbrook was a free agent the year after.

All these questions were applied to Lebron too when he left the Cavs for Miami but people will forget it all IF Durant wins next year or the year after and IF Durant performs at a superstar level.

 

Wouldn't pass the players association. The majority of players are the average player and if all the caps are filled up by the stars, they essentially make the minimum. It's in their own interest to make sure there is a player maximum.

 

This wouldn't have affected or affect the warriors signing KD this year or next year.

The warriors used cap space to sign durant this season.

The warriors will also most likely be using cap space to sign durant next season, since if Durant opts out. His max would be in the 35 million dollar range and the warriors can only pay 120% of his 26 million dollar 2016-17 contract using early bird rights.

To pay Durant his 10 year max of 35 million or close to it, the warriors will need to use cap space to do so and had always intended to do so.

 

Of all the super teams that have been formed, what percentage of the time do they win a championship?

KG, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce - 1 (they were together 5 years)
Shaq, Kobe, Gary Payton, Karl Malone - 0
Hakeem, Drexler, Barkley - 0
Hakeem, Pippen, Barkley - 0
LeBron, Wade, Bosh - 2 (together for 4 years)

Good teams > 3 great players.

KD would have been better off going to Boston. Mark it. Zaza and West are not triangle bigs, this experiment will fail when it matters.

Also, this is like telling everyone that they have to stay with the first company that ever gave them a job. Players need to be able to make money in a market, their market is the NBA, the game has never been ruined by a super team, so the market lives on. The salary cap is far more important than this idea that communism should be implemented in the NBA. What a bunch of socialist crap.

 

You'd see a lot more rookies refuse & force their way to other teams if this were enacted.

 

What if... Each team can have 1 declared franchise player. The team can offer the player a supermax salary of up to 125% of his current rule max. All salary cap rule remains the same.

The rule won't prevent that player from signing w/ another team if he really wants to leave.

If Golden State already has a supermax player, they can only sign another max, not a super max. So..., in the case of Durant. He would have to decide between $37.5 M from a team that doesn't have a supermax player, or 26M from GS.

If GS doesn't have a supermax player, they can offer it to Durant, but they won't be able to offer it to Curry for his next contract.

 

what?

How does this stop Durant from signing with the Warriors?

They used Cap space to sign him.

Next year, they won't have Bird rights to him either and they will have to use Cap space to sign him, again.

Next year they have only Draymond and Klay under contract, so they will have plenty of space to sign Durant using cap space and then go over the cap signing Curry with Bird right.

Reason why Durant was able to join Warriors:

Klay, Curry, and Green all took less than max $$$$$

Curry took less money because he was injured when he signed

Klay took less money because he didn't want to get traded to the Kings or TWolves, so he told the Warriors he wanted to sign an extension without his agent so he can go home and walk his dog

Green took less than what he could have made by taking the first contract Warriors offered instead of testing the water.

The Heats were able to form Super team because Wade took less money...of course now he's still mad 6 years later because he took less money to form the Super Team..

 

All superstars must play in Houston. Problem solved.

 

Drexler should have played one more year. Hakeem, Barkley, Drexler, Pippen and I guess what MATT MALONEY?!?!?!?!

 

What if the declared franchise player was similar to the designated player in the MLS that it would count against the cap as if it were a max contract but the player could theoretically be paid more. Give each team two of these and they only apply to players drafted or have been with the team for 5 years or so. It would incentive players to stay with a team and organizations to draft properly and not trade picks as often.