and I prefer this video to the one with the shoe: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/j6epBwrGNhs&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/j6epBwrGNhs&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
So it took 5-6 years but we finally got somebody to define "victory" in Iraq - the answer is whenever Bush leaves office...so it ends as arbitrarily as it began.
