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White Nationalists Arrested ahead of Richmond Rally Planned to Kill Gun-Rights Demonstrators to Spar

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  1. pirc1

    pirc1 Contributing Member

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    Good thing they got caught and FBI is not just looking for Muslim terrorists.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-nationalists-arrested-ahead-richmond-190456230.html

    Three alleged members of a white supremacist group were plotting to murder demonstrators at Monday’s gun rights rally at the Virginia Capitol before they were arrested by the FBI last week, according to court documents.

    The men were caught discussing their plans on a hidden camera set up in their Delaware apartment by FBI agents.

    “We can’t let Virginia go to waste, we just can’t,” said Patrik J. Mathews, one member of the hate group “the Base” that promotes violence against African-Americans and Jews.

    According to authorities, the 27-year-old former Canadian Armed Forces reservist also discussed creating “instability” in Virginia by killing people, derailing trains, poisoning water, and shutting down highways in order to “kick off the economic collapse” and possibly start a “full blown civil war.”

    Mathews also discussed the possibility of “executing” police officers and stealing their belongings and remarked that, “We could essentially be like literally hunting people.”

    “Virginia will be our day,” said 33-year-old Brian M. Lemley Jr., adding, “I need to claim my first victim.”

    “Lemley discussed using a thermal imaging scope affixed to his rifle to conduct ambush attacks,” the court filings read.

    The two were arrested along with a third man, 19, last Thursday. They are charged with federal firearms violations and “transporting and harboring an alien,” referring to Mathews, who is a Canadian national. Four more members of The Base have also been arrested and charged in Georgia and Wisconsin.

    In a search of the apartment, prosecutors said that FBI agents found propaganda fliers for The Base, communications devices, empty rifle cases, “go bags” with “numerous Meals-Ready-to-Eat,” knives, and materials for building an assault rifle.

    Tens of thousands of gun rights advocates rallied in Richmond on Monday to protest the state’s Democratic legislature’s gun-control agenda. Critics raised fears beforehand that militant white supremacists could disrupt the rally, but the day ended peacefully with no violence.
     
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  2. HTM

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    What a bunch of a**holes. Glad the authorities were able to stop them.
     
  3. KingCheetah

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    The Gov deserves kudos for his executive decisions that prevented chaos/ violence and kept things relatively peaceful.
     
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    Can you imagine if these guys were middle eastern.
     
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    Good job authorities.
     
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    Confederate Flag Operation?
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Loser operations. Good job authorities . that being said these guys seemed like they were talking out their arses
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Entrapment by the deep state or something.

    Or did that only happen when others were President?
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    Did you miss the part where they're Canadian?

    Who can we trust anymore?
     
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    Trump pardon coming in 3...2...
     
  11. No Worries

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    Can you imagine if these guys were Christians?

    Oh wait ...
     
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    ****ing Canadians

     
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    I think it's worse this way. White supremacists versus pro-gun demonstrators? If these idiots were killed in the process but kept their tracks covered, there'd be political chaos over who they were and why they did it and how should we respond. If they were middle eastern, we'd all be pretty sure why they did it. Anyway, glad they're caught.
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    They were planning to target both sides, not just pro-gun demonstrators... chaos, destabilization and brings on civil war, which sounds like accelerationism... (not so different from what the Russian want)

    https://www.adl.org/blog/white-supremacists-embrace-accelerationism

    Equal But Opposite Reaction

    The term “acceleration” references and encompasses two opposing forces. On one end, extremists identify “acceleration” as the perceived escalation by nefarious entities to advance “degenerate” values and influences such as multiculturalism, liberalism and diversity, among others. In line with deeply anti-Semitic views that dominate white supremacist beliefs, Jews are often blamed for their perceived role in promoting these elements—which white supremacists believe contribute to an imminent “genocide” of the white race. This view is expressly articulated by Discord user EagleJarl on November 4, 2017, “The jews [sic] are the real accelerationists.” Discord is a chat platform for gamers to communicate with each other in real time.

    Accelerationism, however, also serves as a reactionary call against the antagonistic forces that are causing society to spiral out of control. In one Discord post from December 22, 2017, user Dr. Goebbowls wrote, “Anyone with half a brain and enough time can find the information to realize that accelerationism is the last resort of the white man of the modern age.”

    Destabilization by Whatever Means Necessary

    Fueled by the perception that the future of the white race is bleak, these white supremacists believe they must employ any means necessary to expedite the collapse of the current system. Solutions to bring down the system range from the most extreme form, violence, to deliberate political engagement that supports destructive and divisive societal elements. For example, Tarrant referenced the need to bring about collapse by leaning in to disruptive forces, even those antithetical to white supremacist beliefs, writing, “A vote for a radical candidate that opposes your values and incites agitation or anxiety in your own people works far more in your favour than a vote for a milquetoast political candidate that has no ability or wish to enact radical change.”

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  15. JuanValdez

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    I am amused, btw, by how often it seems that extremists think their own little activity can be the catalyst for some huge conflagration. I mean, it's happened before. WWI was touched off by a couple of extremists in Sarajevo. But in general it does not happen. And I don't think we're anywhere close to a race war or a civil war that these guys think they can ignite. Supremely irrational self-aggrandizement.
     
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    The assassination in Sarajevo was kind of the straw that broke the camels back, there was a lot of turmoil building up for awhile at that time.
     
  17. JuanValdez

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    And I suppose the thinking goes that the current American civil strife is the same level of powderbox that early 20th-century Europe was and all it needs is for someone to light the fuse. That's what I think is pathetic about their life choices -- even if they succeed in their mission, they'd still fail in their purpose.

    Btw, why do Spartacus ads keep showing up on this particular thread? Is he a white nationalist hero I didn't know about?
     
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  18. AleksandarN

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    Extremists labeled by outside freedom fighters for people who suffered under Austrian Hungarian rule. I get your point though. Just not the example
     
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    Don't underestimate it. IMO America is more of a tinderbox then we'd like to think. I think an assassination of a major political figure would do it or a few coordinated attacks that sow confusion
     
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    they are heros! MAGA!
     

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