1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[WC First Round] (3)Portland vs. (6)Oklahoma City

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Apr 10, 2019.

?

(3)Portland vs. (6)Oklahoma City

Poll closed Apr 13, 2019.
  1. Blazers in 4

    1.4%
  2. Blazers in 5

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Blazers in 6

    12.9%
  4. Blazers in 7

    15.7%
  5. Thunder in 7

    12.9%
  6. Thunder in 6

    44.3%
  7. Thunder in 5

    10.0%
  8. Thunder in 4

    2.9%
  1. Tfor3

    Tfor3 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Messages:
    19,739
    Likes Received:
    22,732
    No one

    NOT ONE person voted Blazers in 5!!!

    That could actually happen and no one voted for it.

    Lol
     
  2. smoothie_king

    smoothie_king Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2007
    Messages:
    3,116
    Likes Received:
    540
    Aminu ain't taking crack head danuel house deal from rockets.

    1 point, a free throw from restbrook, Westbrook but restbrook. Lol
     
    #542 smoothie_king, Apr 22, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2019
    hakeem94 likes this.
  3. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    50,204
    Likes Received:
    40,912
    Russ the modern day Tmac...going to be the most overrated MVP of all time at this rate.
     
  4. Hakeemtheking

    Hakeemtheking Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    9,193
    Likes Received:
    6,059
    Nobody to help Westbrick. Lol

    Yet, just a few weeks ago, didn't we hear the Thunder was one of the favorites to go to Western conference finals? Double lol.
     
  5. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    Westbrick: Shoots a 3 pter
    Rim: NEXT QUESTION!
     
  6. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,561
    Likes Received:
    43,134
    Tmac was rarely healthy so there goes the argument.

    Russ has to go within himself and ask himself what it really takes to win. Go somewhere else if it needs to.

    He is still young and durable enough to re-define his role and help a team.

    He has to realize he is just a semi star with gaudy numbers at this point.

    His biggest forte is his drive to never let up and go relentlessly at the rim, I think he has to use that.
     
  7. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    50,204
    Likes Received:
    40,912
    The biggest issue with Russ is that he always relied on athleticism.

    I called this years ago, I wish I could dig up the post, but these players always fizzle out. He never worked on adding new skills and new moves and just expects to blow past everyone and YAM on everyone and be that physical imposing guard. The problem is he's 30. He's getting worse. He never really was an excellent shooter and he created space with his speed, not his skill.

    You look at other guards they create space by dribble moves and skills. Westbrook just runs past guys or he runs so fast up the court that they have to back up and then he pulls up...but it's not something you want to consistently rely on. Meanwhile Harden was always adding things to his arsenal because he was never the most athletic on the court.

    It's going to be like Dwight and other uber athletic players. He's going to hit a wall and wonder why it's so hard to dominate.

    That's not what is going on right now though, he's just missing shots lol but I don't think Russ will be a player like Duncan or Dirk or Nash or Kobe or Lebron or Curry that gets better with age. I think we've seen his prime.

    Someone mentioned trading him and they should pragmatically, they could get a king's ransom for him right now and rebuild.
     
    roslolian, Easy and daywalker02 like this.
  8. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,561
    Likes Received:
    43,134
    I recall him using the Pick and Pop a ton in his younger years. It was actually quite efficient.

    Dun mind him going back to that.

    It is too late for him to learn a whole arsenal of weapons, he needs to pick one or two and stick with it.

    No shame in admitting he is no superstar no longer.

    I think for an athletic dude he actually lasted really long - watch Tmac as you said, was as good as gone in 7-8 seasons.
     
    roslolian likes this.
  9. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2007
    Messages:
    50,204
    Likes Received:
    40,912
    Problem too is his GM sucks...

    Well Presti doesn't suck, he's good at drafting...but he seems really bad at managing contracts, who to pay and who not to pay, and any kind of trade deal (I mean...Harden trade will be the worst trade ever)

    They keep giving Russ guys that are average shooters at best. They really should have been all over Ryno lol and Korver and other shooters...

    Their roster is just broken. They can't run it back next year, will need a major shake up...but they will probably run it back since the playoff fodder treadmill is addicting to owners.
     
    #549 JayGoogle, Apr 22, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2019
    Rocket River likes this.
  10. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,561
    Likes Received:
    43,134
    Lots of inefficient streaky shooters like Russ.

    I would shake up their entire organization and management.

    Nothing against OKC but I really liked the Sonics, the organization was good. City was fine.

    Really wished they could go back to that culture. Payton, Kemp, Schrempf, also older ones Terry Cummings, Nate McMillan, Sam Perkins......

    The OKC Super Sonics.
     
    #550 daywalker02, Apr 22, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2019
    JayGoogle likes this.
  11. RudyTBag

    RudyTBag Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2006
    Messages:
    28,082
    Likes Received:
    21,287
    In reality the Thunder need way more shooting. That is their biggest problem.
     
    BeBreezy likes this.
  12. ryano2009

    ryano2009 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    7,626
    Likes Received:
    5,002
  13. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    24,409
    Likes Received:
    14,691
    Westbrick 5-21 and -17 for the game
    Harden 3-20 BUT +4 for the game

    We know who is da real MVP and who is just a stat padder and doesn't contribute to winning.
     
  14. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    24,409
    Likes Received:
    14,691
    Fixed
     
    juanm34 likes this.
  15. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    24,409
    Likes Received:
    14,691
    Nah Presti is a decent GM imo. The problem is he picked the wrong horse to ride which is Westbrick over KD and esp. Harden.

    OKC looks flawed because they are built around Westbrick and he just sucks, 100% dependent on his athleticism with no skills or understanding of the game. Having a 1 dimensional shooter like Korver or Anderson won't do any good because Westbrick takes almost all the shots available and doesn't play defense, pure shooters aren't utilized to the max and they just become defensive liabilities. To get around that Presti tried to get 2 way players like PG but that wasn't enough.

    OKC is way better than Portland esp with Nurkic out only reason they keep losing is Westbrick:

    Gm 1: -10
    Gm 2: -27
    Gm 4: -17

    Guess what the game they won Westbrick was +15. He just causes his team to lose with his bricking, stat padding and horrible decision making. Wonder if PG regrets staying with OKC he is getting injured tryong to fix the mess WB is making every game.
     
    seemoreroyals likes this.
  16. count_dough-ku

    count_dough-ku Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    17,602
    Likes Received:
    9,051
    But how do they do that given their current cap situation? Russ, PG, and Adams are all on huge contracts and are essential pieces, so they can't be traded. Roberson has an expiring deal next year and could be moved for something, but that would mean bringing back salary. I don't know if a team paying as much as they are in luxury tax is gonna be too keen on that. They could also trade Schroder for a shooter or two, but he's been important for them as a backup PG and again, it means taking back salary.

    OKC bet it all on this roster and it's failed. Aside from either blowing it up or running it back with a few minor tweaks(and paying a sh-t ton of money in salary and luxury tax), I don't see any other options.
     
  17. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    61,479
    Likes Received:
    28,964
    NARRATIVE ALERT: OKC Lost because of PG13's Bum Shoulder

    News at 11

    Rocket River
     
  18. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,240
    Likes Received:
    155,914
    "Rockets don't want to see this OKC team." :D @Reeko

    Since going up 3-1 on Golden State: 4-14

    L GS 9
    L GS -7
    L GS -8
    ---
    L HOU -31
    L HOU -4
    W HOU +2
    L HOU -4
    L HOU -6
    ---
    W UTAH +8
    L UTAH -7
    L UTAH -13
    L UTAH -17
    W UTAH +8
    L UTAH -5
    ---
    L POR -5
    L POR -20
    W POR +12
    L POR -13

    And we'll hear again next year OKC is the biggest threat to Golden State(or what's left of them at that point.)
     
    #558 J.R., Apr 22, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2019
    roslolian and Reeko like this.
  19. count_dough-ku

    count_dough-ku Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    17,602
    Likes Received:
    9,051
    I'm still glad we didn't draw them in Round 1. They were a terrible matchup for us. I don't know why, but they'd turn into the g-ddamn Warriors against us from 3-point range despite being a horrendous shooting team.
     
    slothy420 and Vivi like this.
  20. mrstriker316

    mrstriker316 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2016
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    509
    Cant stand Westbrook, a baby is what he is, when they lose a game he becomes a brat but when they win he loves to talk to people, I have no respect for him
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now