Walter E. Williams: AA civil rights leader speaks on biggest problem plaguing AA community

Nobody ignores it and why do you people keep trotting out a black like he is the only person who should be listened to on this subject.

I can give 10 black civil rights activists who think BLV have legitimate gripes but I bet you ignore them.

 

In before @pgabriel

 

Rocket River

 

Walter Williams is an African American, but only a hero to right wingers.

 

Man, I loved Walt when he was a Rocket. Glad to see he's got a second career after his playing days, though I wonder if his socio-political views caused trouble in NBA locker-rooms.

On the topic of the specious argument that people who protest police and don't protest black crime. I'm not sure how one protests crime. When you protest police brutality, you're protesting the behavior of an arm of government so you will do things to put pressure on government decisionmakers -- get in the news, get in front of cityhall or whatever. How do you protest crime, which is committed by a highly decentralized and fragmented industry of small independent operators? You can target specifically the bigger networks, which are street gangs. That is something I see people (including black people) doing already. We have nonprofits trying to extract kids from gangs, give them alternatives to gang life, we have propaganda efforts in schools urging kids to stay away from gangs, we have law enforcement geared to disrupt gang activities, we have books and movies that dwell on the negative impacts of gangs. We do lots of anti-gang stuff, though I suppose the one thing we don't do is organized street protests with clever signs and chants to decry street gangs. And we probably don't do that because of how stupid and ineffectual that'd probably be.

Boycotts are a common tool of protest when you don't like something a corporation has done. They can be effective. You don't see people stage boycotts of police because of police brutality, because it wouldn't be effective. You use the tools that will work. For black-on-black crime, protests won't work. There are large social problems that fuel the crime. We need to identify root causes and do work to mitigate them to hopefully reduce the crime downstream. People are working on that, including black people, but the pace of change is going to be generational. And, guess what, one of those root causes of black-on-black crime has to do with discrimination in law enforcement. So BLM and protesting police brutality is one of the lines of work being done to ultimately eliminate the phenomenon of black-on-black violence. So far from ignoring it, protesters are actively working on it.

 

Why is it the right is always, "ALL LIVES MATTER!"

But when it comes to crime it's not that "ALL CRIME IS BAD" it's "Don't you worry about white crime, worry about black on black crime"

 

^^ Somehow I have liked every new uniform we have introduced. I was probably young and dumb or they haven't aged well.

 

Yo @Senator couldn't you have bumped one of your other "Black crime" threads?

I mean really my man, how many threads on the same subject do we need? The article you linked is over a year old, I could see if it was something new...

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php...ls-make-it-hard-for-blacks-to-succeed.294191/
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php...ur-indicted-in-death-of-wedding-guest.293377/

How many more of these do we need? You're really into that Hitler-esque "They are criminals" propaganda, aren't you?

 

This one comes down to "you break it, you buy it" for me.

Whitey knocked an entire shelf over at the supermarket, breaking bottles on the floor and is now pissed at the store clerks because they aren't cleaning his mess up fast enough.

 

Ok, let's say you're right. What's the path forward? Do we just tell black people to stop committing crimes? If our black political leaders, our black ministers, our black athletes, and anyone one else that's black that has a voice -- if they can all just start castigating black people for committing crimes, if they can say victims of police shootings probably had it coming, if they can tell people to pull their pants up, do you think black people will start shaping up and obeying the law? What are you asking for?

 

How’s that disasterous war on drugs going on top of the effects of institutionalized racism?

 

This.

 

He’s out of touch if he believes that

 

Way out of touch.