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[WALLS WORK] Over 35 Palestinians killed by Israeli forces since start of "protest"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
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    Except that Israel wouldn't be okay with a two-state solution. Before Israel was actually a nation the settlers that would become Israel was already attacking and taking Palestinian territory. Palestinians were also attacking them, so it went and continues to go both ways. During the first land for peace offer when Palestinians did lay down their arms and hope for the land part of the peace, Israeli settlements continued and they didn't get land for peace.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    The fighting started before there was an Israel. It was the settlers who would become Israel and the Palestinians that were fighting, and it started before 1948.

    Palestinian villages were massacred before Israel was actually formed. There was no Israel to declare war against, so that didn't happen until Israel formed.

    The idea that there was no fighting until Israel formed and then they were attacked and that's how it all started isn't accurate.
     
  3. tallanvor

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    Palestine has been offered its own country by ISreal many time. They always respond with a 'river of blood'

     
  4. KingCheetah

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    If walls work why are they having to kill so many people?
     
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  5. FranchiseBlade

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    No, they haven't and none of the land deals has ever offered them a sustainable flood. Go back and took a look at the land for peace deal. There was almost one whole year without any real violence from the Palestinians and during that time the settlements didn't stop they didn't receive the land.
     
  6. Nook

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    You are so naive.

    Each side would gut the other one in no time at all.

    Both sides are disgusting savages.....
     
  7. Nook

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    Palestinians are still being forcefully evicted from their land and homes by jewish settlers. It isn't really much different than early apartheid. Neither side will be satisfied until the other side is forced into the ocean.
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    You may believe this, but I believe Palestinians don't. And that is the problem. Palestinians believe the offers essentially take away their land and get less than half of the land back in return. Most offers meant land that was not contiguous and would not have a way for Palestinians to go from one area to the other without passing through Israeli controlled areas. And there have also been questions about access to areas that both group consider Holy.

    Until someone comes up with a solution that Palestinians believe is reasonable, then there haven't been solutions offered. But since this isn't the first time you posted this video... perhaps you can explain what offers have been made, and why Palestinians rejected the offer.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    The walls allow them to kill those people instead of having those people kill them.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    And there's the problem, the ONLY thing that Palestinians will believe is reasonable is them conquering the whole of Israel....and that'll never happen. So they choose their situation by being unreasonable.
     
  11. Surfguy

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    Is this as simple as "if you don't want to die, then don't approach the fence"?
     
  12. No Worries

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    It could be as simple as, "if you do not want to get arrested, then do not drive a car while being black".
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    You'd think folks who are so worried about immigrants coming to steal their country away from them here in the US would be more sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians who actually had that happen to them.
     
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    Examples abound.

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    "It's all 'bout that melanin, Chief Broseph."
     
  15. Cohete Rojo

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    Where does this idea come from? The Palestinians, along with Syria, Jordan, and Egypt, invaded Israel in 1948.
     
  16. No Worries

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    One might consider your country invaded, if a minority therein is given controlled of said country.
     
  17. NewRoxFan

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    Hmm... 1948 you say. Seems something happened in 1948...
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    Right, the day God created Adam and Eve, May 14, 1948.
     
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    When the mapmakers drew up the imaginary lines for Israel post-WWII, a lot of people (Palestinians) were forced to move/displaced. My hypothetical was to reduce it to the idea that, imaginary nation-boundaries or not, if you were forced out of your home/way of life and shuttled to what amounts to a reserve in West Texas, would you go peaceably or resist.

    A lot of the sh%(tstorm you see today in the ME can be traced back to a bunch of incompetent French and English mapmakers who had no conception of the ethnic history of the region (Iraq, etc.).
     
  20. StupidMoniker

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    Part of the effectiveness of physical barriers (walls, fences, moats, trenches, etc.) is that they can be defended by soldiers. The benefit of the wall is not in having no attacks, it is in providing a great advantage to the defender.
     
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