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Trump's growing black support scares Dems

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by dachuda86, Nov 28, 2019.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    Tell black people about how Trump lowered black unemployment.
     
  2. dachuda86

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    I can respect others' agency and not treat people like they should vote a certain way based on their skin or genitals. That is my own personal way to help the world. My community is America in a broad sense.
     
  3. dachuda86

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    Oh please speak on behalf of all blacks some more please and what they should do. When statistics and data fails... just do that.
     
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    And there was also this poll mentioned in your brietbart article.

    A November Morning Consult/Politico poll reported only 18 percent of black registered voters approved of President Trump’s performance.

    So how does that factor in?

    Remember that one poll that had Warren running away with the race?
     
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    Nobody here is actually trying to speak on behalf of all black people.

    But a strawman hs never stoped you.
     
  6. dachuda86

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    Well it appears to be an outier compared to others but hey bring it to discuss instead of b****ing so much.
     
  7. dachuda86

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    I will also point out that Trump is not the Republican Party. Some people here falsely conflate the two because he took their nomination spot. One can vote for him and still largely reject the party or all parties for that matter.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    It's so dismissive of the systemic issues that has plagued the black community especially in urban ghettos due to 400 years of institutionalized racism because the unemployment rate is low after a couple years of Trump being in office especially when unemployment was already low before Trump entered.

    Please provide me with some nuance what Trump specifically did to solve the problems of poverty and incarceration in the black community? Does he have any nuanced ideas about early childhood education, k-12 education, healthcare etc?

    These issues will only be solved by reforming the avenues that poor black children in poor neighborhoods have to be successful such as access to high quality education and a stable home. To assume Trump solved this by touting unemployment numbers is precisely the evidence that black people.from these neighborhoods need to understand that Trump and his Ilk don't even give two *****. They'll your unemployment numbers as if they solved the systemic problems that black Americans face in poor urban neighborhoods.

    It's going to take entire generations to solve these issues and see the fruits of solving these systemic issues. To brag about black unemployment currently as "evidence" that Trump has solved these issues is insulting.

    For example, solving the early childhood education gap that plagues poor black families will bear its fruits 20-30 years down the line. These issues don't get solved in a year. But Trump wants to pretend he solved their issues because unemployment is low.
     
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    The others?

    It's actually the polls that you are using are the outliers.

    I can't even.
     
  10. dachuda86

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    ranting about racism... how productive.
     
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    well i have seen 4 brought up... your 1 to the 3 indicating more. Also that number you brought up is historically pretty high. Is it that hard to imagine more blacks supporting a strong economy? If they are seeing a better life and easier... why fix what isn't broken. Pocketbook voters are pretty predictable with incumbents.

    I will point out again... aporoval doesn't equal votes which actually should be comforting for you. But def. noteworthy and could indicate a coming shift.
     
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    None of this changes the fact that you are ignoring every other poll about Trumps black support and focusing on these 3.

    And hilarious that you think things are not broken.

    Lawl.
     
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    Well I am going off the recent ones that I am aware of. Bring some links to the others man and let us talk.
     
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    Instead of poll numbers, why not discuss actual issues that **** poor urban black communties and what the current administration is doing to help in a nuanced cordial non-poo flinging manner?
     
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    If I thought you were serious about a convo I would but been there done that.

    Not taking the bait.
     
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    So...his support there is growing why, then??
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    Is it growing or are few outlier polls just that? Outliers...
     
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    Good question. Effective negative campaigning plus groups he isn't targeting himself yet. Suburban areas may have higher percentages of people more inclined to support the current Demicratic 'socialistic' agenda.
     
  19. jiggyfly

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    So you think it's actually growing?

    Why?
     
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    Multiple polls.
     

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