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Trump Crisis Finally Hits Stocks As Concerns Mount Over GOP Defections

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, May 17, 2017.

  1. No Worries

    No Worries Contributing Member

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    There might be a chance that Trump will finally be "hoisted on his own petard".
    Trump say trade wars are easy wins.
    I don't know how he can walk that back after the trade war becomes hard and un-winnable.
    I guess in a post-fact world, Trump could go full DACA and say the Dems made him do it.
     
  2. adoo

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    not really

    while pork / grain are from Iowa and neighboring states,

    wines / nuts / fruits are imported from uber blue California, not coincidentally,
    the jurisdiction under which the capable attorney for Texas resident Stormy Daniels
    has chosen to sue Trump et al to invalidate the NDA written by Cohen
    because it is not in cahoots w Cambridge Analytics in a manner like Putin, China is not that in tune w the political demographics
    indigenous to the US.
     
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  3. pirc1

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  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    What good this [strike]clone[/strike] trade war has made?
     
  5. SamFisher

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  6. WNBA

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    It will promote global hatred toward Trump.
     
  7. mtbrays

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    nO sTeEl No CoUnTrY

    TrAdE wArS aRe EaSy To WiN

    nO pUpPeT
     
  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    What would Russia have wanted to accomplish? Not very hard to imagine.
    * sow maximal discord within US. (check)
    * weaken US democratic systems. (check)
    * sow further distrust among US citizens of information and facts. (check)
    * push US away from European allies. (was going well until clumsy UK event)
    * have outwardly less confrontational stance with US. (was going well w' 45 until clumsy UK event)
    * maximize US-China tensions. (going well now)
    * weaken US economy via ignorant trade wars. (we'll see)
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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  10. Invisible Fan

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    OP's premise is a bit flawed. S&P500 went up by 300 since he posted. This is why people from both sides hate the media and their flimsy articles with eye grabbing titles.

    The trade war thing will potentially crater the gains if Trump doesn't tuck in his tail like he's done before, but it's feeding season until the Fed tries to shoe in some semblance of a prudent and less juiced monetary policy to freshen up our rotten and decaying balance sheets.

    I'd think his advisors will tell him to STFU so that he can reap some bounce from the ill gotten 10-for-me 1-for-you tax returns.

    But hey, we're not the boss of him...He do what he wants.
     
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  11. adoo

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    stop spreading half-azzed piecemeal news.
    ,
    the media reported what Trump had announced, which tanked the market. After China responded w its own tariff proposals,
    the market tanked some more, which prompted

    Trump advisors, Navarro, Kudlow and Ross to kinda of walk-back Trump's impetuous words, suggesting that
    it is not a trade war, just positioning for negotiation.
    the media reported on this "walk-back", which you had irresponsibly/conveniently omitted in ur post [​IMG] [​IMG]

    traders heeded this "walk-back", only then, did the market calm down, and reversed direction​


    people from both side hate Trump talking sh it without thinking. such as
    it's so easy to
    implement a Muslim ban, to repeal ObamaCare, to build a border wall, to start a trade war, etc.​


    u can't possibly be that ignorant

    the US taxpayers are his bosses

    in the USA, the POTUS can't do what his pleases.
    i know that you know that Trump could not get
    the unconstitutional Muslim ban EO approved
    ObamaCare repeal
    a Child molester elected as a US Senator
    the border wall built​
     
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  12. adoo

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    Multiple members of the Trump administration on Wednesday began looking to downplay the potential fallout from the brewing trade battle between the US and China. China's retaliatory tariff announcement had sent the stock market tumbling as people worried about broader economic pain. Following soothing words from officials like Larry Kudlow and Wilbur Ross, the market rebounded.

    Perhaps the most soothing voice for investors and economists fretting over the possibility of a China-US trade war was Larry Kudlow, who replaced Gary Cohn last week as Trump's top economic adviser.

    "There's no trade war here," Kudlow said "What you've got is the early stages of a process which will include tariffs, comments on the tariffs, then ultimate decisions and negotiations. There's already back-channel talks going on."

    Kudlow also told reporters on the White House lawn that "it's possible" the tariffs would never actually be imposed. The proposed product list is open for comments, and the Office of the US Trade Representative will review the comments until the end of May.


    moral of the story

    the dotard needs---stopping the self-inflicted woulds---to think before he talks !​



     
  13. Air Langhi

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    Most of the gains from trumps policies are due to the massive tax cuts. Makes earnings higher, but this is going to increase debt/ interest rates. I think longterm it is going to hurt, because now is time you should be leaving taxes alone to pay down debt for the next recession because you know it will come, instead of increasing the debt. When the recession comes you should increase government spending lower taxes to jump start economy.
     
  14. Invisible Fan

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    I don't think any of what I wrote runs against your reply.

    I find it remarkable it's Day 5XX of Trump Crisis and the market eats it up like a champ while adoodoo feels a need to bluster like an orange whale to cover up that plain observation
     
  15. adoo

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    the DOW reversed upward 1,000 points since the dotard's advisers had to "walk-back" Trumps words.

    this only underscores the stupidity, self-inflicted wound, of Trump's talking without thinking
     
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  16. pirc1

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    Trump knows how to negotiate, he is the best at it. Seriously, other than telling lies and getting away with bankruptcies, what is he good at?
     
  17. adoo

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    the resounding FU to DJ Trump heard around Wall Street !!!

    in mid-March when the dotard, envious of Jeff Bezos's success,
    lied about Amazon and then bashed it repeatedly, the stock price nose-dive ~ 250 points.​

    Performance talks, Trumps' BS walks; AMZN stock price has recovered.

    Yesterday Amazon reported fantastic results for Q1, probably the best in its history,
    w a upbeat guidance for more growth to come, beating analysts' estimates on all metrics;
    its stock price has gained ~ 300 points month-to-date.

    [​IMG]


    take that, dotard
     
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  18. Air Langhi

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    Amzn is worth more than google. Google generates way more cash than amzn. I know AMZN has always had an insane valuation, but I just don't feel comfortable buying it.
     
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  19. adoo

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    Trump has lied that stock market is doing better than “ever before” 97 times

    Fact check: http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-lying-more-now-he-was-beginning-his-presidency-908358

    In 2017, U.S. stocks haven’t rallied as strongly as their foreign counterparts in EU, China,Japan, So America, etc.​

    from inauguration to April of the following year, “stock prices rose about three times as much under Obama” as Trump
    Just the facts !
     
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  20. adoo

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    2 days ago, Fear over Italy sovereignty debt drove the DOW down by ~ 500 pt. Yesterday, trades come to their senses realizing that the US is not Italy, the DOW recovered close to 300 pt.

    today, Trump is starting a global trade war, imposing tariffs on steel and aluminum from the European Union, Mexico and Canada. The DOW has declined > 200 pt. http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/31/investing/us-steel-aluminum-tariffs-response/index.html

    But, China, who had committed $ 400M to fund the Trump Co's project in Indonesia., is not on that list. had it been on the list, the DOW decline would be much severe.

    in response, The European Union has said that its retaliatory measures, which could be in place as soon as June 20, would include 25% tariffs on American products including motorcycles, denim, cigarettes, cranberry juice and peanut butter.

    The Mexican government said that the US action was not justified, and that it would retaliate with its own comparable penalties on US lamps, pork, fruit, cheese and flat steel.
     

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