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Trading Harden is the answer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by shocky2002, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    LOL so I thought Harden was holding back this team
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    He is. He runs off all the people who could help him win it all. 1st Howard then CP3. Both got him to the WC finals. Westbrook won't. Yule see.
     
  3. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    LOL Dwivas your answer?

    at the time, which player can you replace harden with and play with dwiva to get past the warriors?
     
  4. Remlap

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    Yeah, that worked out pretty well for Cleveland when they lost 'Bron.

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    What is become one of the worst nba teams?
     
  6. Caprah

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    Notice how fchowder and his fellow Lin fans are never here after a good harden game?
     
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  7. Caprah

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    Add Asian sensation to the list
     
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  8. jcf

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    Um, remind me how the Rockets did in the early 90's. Should we have traded Hakeem? What was our regular season record in the 94-95 season? What a bunch of losers.
     
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  9. lloyde8

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    Harden for Ingram, Ball, Hart, picks :)
     
  10. apollo33

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    Harden might be tradable only to another fringe contender who is willing to all in for a title, kinda like what we did in 2017 with Chris Paul.

    Otherwise no team would give up prospects for Harden at his age, makes no sense.
     
  11. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Contributing Member

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    trading Harden is not the answer. every other player is replaceable on some level, but Harden is not. We need a better coach and we need to add length and defense in the front court. That's what we need.

    You need special players to win championships. Harden is super special; we're going nowhere without him. It's not worth trading him for picks or players; way too risky -there's no way to replace the advantage his unstoppable scoring gives us. We just need a coach who is gonna instill more discipline and coach the team better on the court. And our center can't be the only guy over 6'6 on the court. I don't think it's rocket science. This is all fixable.
     
  12. dobro1229

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    The issue isn’t trading Harden to make the team better now or in the near future.

    The real issue Houston needs to be afraid of is when Harden inevitably requests a trade to a contender if this team continues to fail at putting a D league quality team around him and he has to put the team on his back nightly to get to 50 wins.

    It’s inevitable. He’s going to ask for a trade as early as this Summer if the Rockets don’t find a way to get him some help or get the supporting players like EG, Westbrook, and Capela to pick you their games.

    Trading him now isn’t going to happen. Makes no sense. In the Summer though it might be inevitable that we have to trade him and in that case Morey better get a Paul George level haul back for him.
     
  13. daywalker02

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    Well, Lebrawn returned to CLE, dun see Harden returning unless he is 36 or 37.

    They got young Kyrie who still didn't become that idiot until later in his career.
     
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    Harden has "controlled" the trade for CP3 and Russ, and likely other moves around the edges. He has always eagerly extended, said he'd be here forever, etc.

    Obviously that can all change, but Harden isn't asking for a trade this summer. Not after just 1 year with Russ. If the Rockets move Russ... MAYBE. But I'd still say no. 2021 offseason - then its possible. But if he wants a trade summer of 2021, when he's 32, likely because they haven't made a WCF again, much less a Finals or won a ring, than not sure how that'd be something to worry about... other than the fact that the Rockets would have lost leverage in a trade a bit.
     
  15. Remlap

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    Has nothing to do with whether or not Harden would 'return' to HOU.
    It's about 'what would our team look like if we got rid of him'
    Even now, we're winning at a 60% clip and people are carrying torches and pitchforks.
    Imagine what this board would be like if we had no Harden and we're 10th in the West
     
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  16. Mr. Turbo

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    One day it will be. But not right now.
     
  17. daywalker02

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    With good luck 13th/14th seed without him.
     
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  18. ChillyPete32

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    None of those trades are good. Simmons is a somewhat problematic player who is unlikely to ever be the best player on a championship team and is on a massive deal. The Lakers have nothing left to trade. Paying Khris Middleton $30mm a year to be on a lousy team is pointless.

    I know you can't do it, but I would have been tempted to do the deal OKC made with LAC for George getting a low cost 21 year old future all star and a massive bounty of picks and swaps.

    Short of something like that, there's no reason to trade a generational player solely for the sake of starting over.
     
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  19. N2bnfunn

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    What is he doing to tonight?
     
  20. SamFisher

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    That's because Beijing Ducks play at like 5 AM bro.
     

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