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The Trump / Ukraine Connection

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Sep 29, 2019.

  1. adoo

    adoo Member

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    In connection to the impeachment inquiry, these current / former State Dept officials will be questioned by the House Intell Committee headed by Rep Adam Schiff

    • on Tue
      • Marie Yovanovitch, former US ambassador to Ukraine
        • a career member of the foreign service and who has served in ambassadorships under three presidents, was sworn in as ambassador to Ukraine in August 2016.
        • in Mar 2019, she was recalled from her ambassador post
    • on Wed
      • Kurt Volker, former Special Envoy to Ukraine, and who had arranged Rudi's meetings w Ukranian officials
    • on Thur
      • Sec of State, Pompei
     
  2. adoo

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    Elements of the bombshell whistleblower report outlining various aims pursued by the Trump administration with respect to Ukraine keep connecting back to Russia.

    Ukraine President Zelensky was urged to make a deal with Putin, pressured “to play ball” with respect to
    • providing or manufacturing compromising materials about Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden, and
    • essentially tasked with concocting “the evidence” to disprove the well-established fact that the Democratic National Committee server was hacked by Russian intelligence agents in 2016.



     
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  3. nickb492

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    Who would have thought that Ukraine would be the downfall of Trump? That ticket in Vegas probably made someone that placed a dollar bet, a billionaire right now.
     
  4. dachuda86

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    Is this report first-hand and completely accurate?
     
  5. No Worries

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    Completely irrelevant now that Trump has publicly admitted to the crimes in question.
     
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    Repeating... this is fox news reporting...

     
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  7. dachuda86

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    Clutchfans these days:

    Idiots: we need to impeach Trump because he violated the law.

    Me: What is this violation people keep claiming?

    Idiots: A quid pro.

    Me: It's not actually spelled out as a quid pro quo.

    Idiots: It doesn't have to be a quid pro quo.

    Me: Why are you impeaching then?

    Idiots: Because he violated the law.

    (It is obvious yall got caught with your pants down on this and you're just BS'ing to remove the guy because you can't actually beat him in 2020.)


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    The other convo I see happening again and again here:

    Idiots: He admitted to a quid pro quo!

    Me: Show me the link.

    Idiots: Here.

    Link: Trump denies the quid pro quo. Doesn't actually admit to anything criminal. Said he was discussing possible corruption and crimes related to the previous admin.

    Idiots: See!
     
  8. Rashmon

    Rashmon Contributing Member

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    You're doing God's work daculo83. God's work. Not Rudy, not the whistleblower, but you...you're the real hero.
     
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  9. No Worries

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    Idiot Trump: I asked the Ukraine President for a personal favor, if he wanted those anti-tank missiles for his hot war with Putin.

    Trump is putting Trump ahead and his duties to our country. This is against the law and against the Constitution.

    Nice try fitting the facts to your partisan narrative.

    Troll on, you crazy diamond. Troll on.
     
  10. adoo

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    actually, the CrowdStrike spin was initiated by 4chan bloggers, Rudi picked it up and passed it on to the dotard

     
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  11. dachuda86

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    There was no if. Learn to read. Or just stop lying.

    Also the word favor doesn't imply or even mean reciprocity. Learn English please. Go read about words and their meaning. You are allowed to talk about more than one thing in a phone call as well. Cool your jets.
     
  12. adoo

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    learn to read

    no worries' emphasis is on "personal favor"​
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes. We get it you are going to pretend Trump's words mean something else rather than face the truth. I'm not trying to gang up on you but have you noticed the way multiple people react to your posts of denying what came out of Trump's mouth?

    That is because it is removed from reality. I am bringing this up in hopes that it will be kind of an intervention to get you to have an easier time dealing with the actual facts.
     
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  14. JayGoogle

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    When you have to imagine a conversation to win a debate.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    LOL - he broke the law - doesn't need a quid pro quo - he can't ask a foreign power to dig up dirt on a political opponent for personal gain.

    Clear cut and impeachable.

    DD
     
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  16. JayGoogle

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    Not only that, he's going around threatening the whistleblower, another sign of a cover up and clearly this isn't presidential.

    I can't remember the last time a president just openly threatened anyone like that.
     
  17. dachuda86

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    The word personal is not in the transcript. Nor would it change the meaning of favor.

    This is...

    "I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it."

    Please learn more English and do you homework before you lecture me.

    Us means the USA more than likely since he's talking on behalf of the country. That's far from personal business. Bloody nice try.
     
  18. No Worries

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    I will stop feeding this troll.

    BTW, I enjoy being told to "learn to read" by a troll who asks for links when he has no intention of actually reading them.
     
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  19. JuanValdez

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    That would have been President Trump, and not all that long ago.
     
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  20. dachuda86

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    Your links don't actually have what you describe. How about you stop lying instead of pretending you are being trolled. Get a grip. Is it just hard to come back down from earth after the dems got you high on dreams of impeachment? You better be ready for the crash from that trip bro. It's gonna be brutal.
     

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