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The Trump effect. Saudi Arabia cut ties with Qatar after meeting with Trump regarding terrorism

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  1. justtxyank

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    Well good news. The Secretaries of State and defense went and educated the president and he has now reversed course and has offered to help fix relations lol just two days after taking credit for it
     
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    And as always, it is good to go to twitter for timely and important insight such as:

     
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    I thought that was glaringly obvious.
     
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    This has EVERYTHING to do with people like Obama and Hillary having the patience to sit down and read dozens of pages of breifings and reports and having high reading comprehension skills vs Donny who wants to condense everything to maps and charts on a single sheet.


    The most depressing thing about this notion is that Trump supporters admire this trait about him because "he's just like me!"
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    And just like that, the idiot-in-chief just flopped back and supported the Qatar blockade, and in process directly contradicted his Secy of State on the same afternoon, again because of other nations (Saudi Arabia).

    President Trump Just Directly Contradicted His Secretary of State
    http://time.com/4813247/donald-trump-contradict-rex-tillerson-qatar/
     
  7. Amiga

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    What's the chances that Trump woke up, read his daily news and saw a few articles about Qatar's leaders not liking Trump very much. Putin strikes again.
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    Waitadangumminute, I thought Trump said that Qatar is very bad... then why are we selling them weapons?

    Trump sells Qatar $12 billion of U.S. weapons days after accusing it of funding terrorism
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-s...-days-after-accusing-it-of-funding-terrorism/
     
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    Strange that paid propagandist RL has not been back in the thread after cheering so loudly for what happened regarding Qatar in the beginning.
     
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    Trumpsters would do well to avoid posting in threads about Trump's accomplishments until a week or so has passed and allowed Trump to say or do something the exact opposite of what he's accomplished.
     
  11. NewRoxFan

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    Ted Lieu zaps Trump during this questioning... and the State department's answer ("I believe so") raises even more flags...

    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/337987-dem-does-trump-know-about-qatari-jet-sale
     
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    Emboldened by a completely clueless U.S. Administration, Qatar has been given a deadline of 10 days to bow the knee to Saudi Arabia or else.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ents-demands-qatar-close-al-jazeera-cut-ties/

    • Curb diplomatic ties with Iran and close some Qatari offices there. Kick members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard out of Qatar and cut off any joint military cooperation with Iran. Only trade and commerce with Iran that complies with US and international sanctions will be permitted.

    • Sever all ties to "terrorist organisations" including the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamic State group, Al-Qaeda, and Lebanon's Hezbollah. Formally declare those entities as terrorist groups.

    • Shut down Al Jazeera and its affiliate stations.

    • Shut down news outlets that Qatar funds, directly and indirectly, including Arabi21, Rassd, Al Arabiya Al-Jadeed and Middle East Eye.

    • Immediately terminate the Turkish military presence currently in Qatar and end any joint military cooperation with Turkey inside of Qatar.

    • Stop all means of funding for individuals, groups or organisations that have been designated as terrorists by Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Bahrain, the United States, Canada and other countries.

    • Hand over "terrorist figures" and wanted individuals from Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and Bahrain to their countries of origin. Freeze their assets, and provide any desired information about their residency, movements and finances.

    • End interference in sovereign countries' internal affairs. Stop granting citizenship to people who hold citizenship in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and Bahrain. Revoke Qatari citizenship for existing nationals off those four countries if it violates those countries' laws.

    • Stop all contacts with the political opposition in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and Bahrain. Hand over all files detailing Qatar's prior contacts with and support for those opposition groups.

    • Pay reparations and compensation for loss of life and other, financial losses caused by Qatar's policies in recent years. The sum will be determined in coordination with Qatar.

    • Align itself with the other Gulf and Arab countries militarily, politically, socially and economically, as well as on economic matters, in line with an agreement reached with Saudi Arabia in 2014.

    • Agree to all the demands within 10 days of it being submitted to Qatar, or the list becomes invalid. The document doesn't specify what the countries will do if Qatar refuses to comply.

    • Consent to monthly audits for the first year after agreeing to the demands, then once per quarter during the second year. For the following 10 years, Qatar would be monitored annually for compliance.
     
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    Sounds like a pretty solid list. It's a good thing if Arab countries are going after those who support or fund terrorism isn't it?
     
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    sound good if it was the case, but its not ,so far UAE is Iran largest trade partner and Egypt Military Generals chasing MBs members and oppositions while aligning them with ISIS,Qaeda which just show how unserious they're in fighting terrorism . Citizens of those 4 countries have the right to renounce their original citizenship and become Qataris, Turkey military base is none of those 4 countries business , and shutting down Al Jazeera is absurd ,those 4 countries have like hundred of network/ TV channels that might become watchable if they improved their quality and neutrality
     
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    Have all the US troops stationed in Qatar starved to death, yet?
     
  18. Major

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    Too bad they are not. Saudi Arabia and Egypt's definition of terrorists rarely matches ours. Or do you actually believe those countries are aligned with us on the issues of terrorism?

    These two amuse me:

    End interference in sovereign countries' internal affairs. Stop granting citizenship to people who hold citizenship in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and Bahrain. Revoke Qatari citizenship for existing nationals off those four countries if it violates those countries' laws.

    Align itself with the other Gulf and Arab countries militarily, politically, socially and economically, as well as on economic matters, in line with an agreement reached with Saudi Arabia in 2014.

    Let's align on all things. And stay out of our affairs! But hey, we're going to dictate to you your internal policies on who you can or can't give citizenship to or allow into your country.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Well that's just how it goes when you aren't a fully independent nation that can stand on your own. When you are reliant on others for your very existence, they get a say in your affairs and they can tell you who not to fund. Just how it goes.
     
  20. Major

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    So I take this to mean you do align yourself with Saudi Arabia and Egypt on terrorism issues. Fascinating.
     

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