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The Saudi Syria Yemen situation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Senator, Jan 14, 2019.

  1. Senator

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    http://www.arabnews.com/node/1435616/saudi-arabia

    I am curious, we have some insiders on here. What are the core issues Saudi and Syria have with each other, and why has there been severe civil unrest in Yemen that needed Saudi and Irani intervention? How much can be directly blamed on the US?

    I am not satisfied with the mainstream media consensus explanation at all.
     
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    I used to read a blog by a guy who had s political posting in Yemen and later had a really high civilian intelligence job in the DIA.

    The Sunni/Shia thing is how the regional players view things. Inside the country the people are mostly concerned with tribal loyalties and taking your armored Division home and declaring yourself in revolt against the government is the political equivalent of staging a protest march.

    Apparently, they've basically been in internal conflict for a really long time. In picks up and seed lows down in spurts, which is why the history books make it look like several discrete periods of conflict.

    The thing that has really changed is Saudi and Iran deciding it is a good place to make into a proxy war for their own reasons.
     
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    sectarian based analysis is sort of an over simplifying descriptionari, Assad is not even considered a legitimate Shiea by Iranian 12th sector mullahs nor Zaidi Yemanies are anywhere close to Tehran armagdon nuts .Remember how most in the west distanced them self from MBS after he murdered the journalist! that how Arab governments reacted to Assad after his brutal campaigns ,he was a close friend to Turkey, Saudis and Qatari. The irony though is that most of the Yemen/Syria/Saddam Iraq military gears, equipments ,missiles, toilet paper etc; were gifted to them by Saudi Arabia based on some terrible geopolitical assessments that didn't take sectarianism& loyalty into consideration
     
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    trump just vetoed congressional resolution to end support of Saudi-led coalition against Iran-backed rebels in Yemen. The House passed the resolution 247-175 while the republican led senate passed it 54-46. Lets see if the senate bends over again to trump or if they remember that they are a co-equal branch of our government...

     
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    80,000 deaths from violence (not including malnutrition)
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...oalition-military-assistance-uk-a8678376.html
    85,000 children dead due to malnutrition
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/world/middleeast/yemen-famine-children.html
    1,800,000 children currently malnourished and 8,000,000 children without access to water
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...veal-scale-world-s-worst-humanitarian-n923741
    14,000,000 on the brink of famine
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-become-one-of-worst-in-living-memory-un-says
    10,000 cases a *week* of cholera
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tes-to-10000-cases-per-week-who-idUSKCN1MC23J

    How many elected officials give a **** about this? No one, because no one wants to face the fact that questioning our involvement in this atrocity means questioning the entire system of capitalism, imperialism, settler colonialism, and the seemingly never ending war for oil acquisition. And don’t forget it was who Obama who first got us involved.

    The U.S. has the blood of millions of Yemeni men women, and children on our hands, and that number is growing by the day. **** this evil ****ing empire.
     
  7. Senator

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    You've completely ignored the primary factor here - sectarianism within Islam. The rest aren't perfect but is the best system we've come up with after millenia of mindless bloodshed. Religion becomes more dangerous the more unstable an area becomes.
     
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    Yea, it's the United States fault that Yemen finds itself in the position it does in 2019.

    The people of Yemen and regional actors are responsible for this humanitarian disaster.

    Because the United States sells arms to a regional actor does not put the burden of the lives lost in this conflict on the United States.
     

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