Sources: Rockets have eyes on Jimmy B

So we would basically be relying on Melo becoming our Gordon spark off the bench then. He gets to be the alpha dog in the 2nd unit, could suit him if hes willing to accept the role.

 

oh two very much unproven guys are assumed to be able to replicate the role, especially against GS.

what a nice assumption based on nothing but a guess

 

With Jimmy Butler, I would 100% not want Melo anymore. 3 players is about the max for your main players who will have the ball the majority of the time. Everyone else needs to have a more specialized role such as 3-point shooting, catching lobs, cutting, etc. Everything would have to run through CP3, Harden, and Butler, and there wouldn't be any room for Melo to get his shots. He'd be useless.

 

consider we might not even need to beat gsw to become champs eg jazz beats them before wcf

 

Hey, you hit some and you miss some. I also said Lowry should start over Brooks because he is way better, and that Terrence Jones would be out of the league. Anyways, weren't you the one who... oh nevermind, you're nobody.

 

The idea is that there's a certain "replaceability" factor in NBA trades; you're always trying to trade up to a higher currency. Even if two guys together are great, you trade them up for the guy in the higher scarcity bracket. You can replace what PJ and Eric give you. Not easily, but you can. It is very hard to attain a star in his prime, so you pull the trigger and then worry about how to backfill the guys in the lower talent bracket.

Think of it as trading two Porsche 911s for a Porsche 918.

It's a tough trade if you really love those cars. But you do it because 911s are much more common.

 

Why are u folks worried about our second unit or whether we have enough basket to go around?

Let's wait til we get Jimmy first. I am sure Morey and DA will figure out the rest.

 

CF in 2017: "Luc M'Bah a Moute and PJ Tucker? They're decent defenders, right? Whatever, bring 'em in and hope for the best."

CF in 2018: "WE CAN'T POSSIBLY SURVIVE WITHOUT LUC AND PJ!!!"

 

I would absolutely HATE to lose Tucker, and Gordon too.

But thinking of Paul-Harden-Butler-Melo-Capela out there at times... and then you have Knight as your creator off the bench. That's really something. You build around that.

 

How about nothing and let's keep the team we have?

 

Yeah I try to make the deal without Tucker. Just think he’s too Important to the teams success in the immediate future. Tucker is a guy that brings that intensity every single night.

Yes I know Butler is a star, but we still need guys like Tucker to win a Chip imo.

Try to do it with Gordon, young talent and pics.

 

We got ****ing Melo at the 3, which is a huge hole on D. Already pissed Bzdelik is retiring, and now getting rid of EG and PJ?

What the ****? Their goes our D.....

 

do you really not think that adding a talent like butler outweighs losing someone like tucker (who i love, btw)??? butler is an all-star pushing superstar level two way player... this is a no-brainer.

 

What is Jimmy Butler going to do to make up for what we're going to lose with EG and PJ? **** that if I'm giving up our D strength for more high powered offense.

 

After LeBron, you have Steph, Durant and Harden as the next best players in the NBA. People can argue about which is better than which, and there are legit arguments for any of those three, but they are all so close that it is hard to make a call. CP3 is in a tier right below that, mainly because of age and injuries.

So, even though I am a biased Rockets homer, I think you have to give the edge to Steph+Durant over Harden+CP3.

However, Butler is much, much, much better than Thompson or Green. Way better.... and I'm just hoping that Cousins doesn't fit or isn't healthy.
He is a better defender than Ariza, Luc or Tucker (although yes, he doesn't have the size or strength to have the versatility of guarding big like Tucker does.) In addition to that, he is way, way better on offense than any of those three. Not even close.

CP3, Harden, Butler and Capela would be straight up sick. Seriously. That is just insane to think about.

If we were somehow able to get Butler, it would be possible that out of the 12 all stars from the Western Conference, 8 of them would be from two teams.

 

Biggest question for me is, why was Butler in the Bahamas during the Rockets meet. Was it a coincidence, or did a meeting take place with a game plan?

 

Jimmy Butler: 2nd Team All-Defensive Team 4 of the last 5 years (missed once due to injury)

PJ/EG combined: zero All-Defensive Team appearances

And you really think that trade would equal "giving up our D strength for more high powered offense"?

Pass the bong, brother.

 

I didn't know this. Where'd you hear this?

 

Mike D'Antoni's Suns teams on crack? lol

 

You don't think Jimmy Butler brings intensity just as much as Tucker does?

The whole reason he is available is Thibs barking at him through two franchises has not been an intense enough environment for him.

I definitely understand the concern, but Butler kind of fills that hole. It would be nice if we had one more character like that, but it is better to need a PJ Tucker than it is to need a Jimmy Butler I think.