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So Trump is a Nazi who was put into office by Russian President Vladimir Putin....

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. MojoMan

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    So let me get the left's narrative straight here. Trump is a Nazi who was put into office by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    Are you sure you really want to stick with this one? I'll even let you read a history book on WWII before you reply.
     
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    So let me get Trump's/the right's narrative straight here. Obama is literally the founder of ISIS.

    Are you sure you really want to stick with this one? I'll even let you read a history book on Obama before you reply.


    So let me get Trump's/the right's narrative straight here. Trump's approval numbers are "not bad" relative to other Presidents at similar points.

    Are you sure you really want to stick with this one? I'll even let you read the facts before you reply.


    So let me get Trump's/the right's narrative straight here. There are two sides to the story of Nazis protesting.

    Are you sure you really want to stick with this one? I'll even let you watch the news before you reply.
     
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    Bored, OP? Since I'm viewed as "of the Left" here, except by glynch, perhaps, I personally have never called Mr. trump a Nazi. I've called him a lot of things, and I think he is deliberately encouraging Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists for his own bizarre reasons, but I've never called him a Nazi.

    That isn't a term to be tossed around like a Frisbee at the park. It is a word used and celebrated by the National Socialists in Germany before and during the war, as well as during the trials of the Nazi leadership for war crimes after WWII. It's used in historical fiction, and in histories of the period. It is a word loaded with meaning for the people of Germany, who have acknowledged that history and are now one of our closest allies, despite Putin's friend, Mr. trump, attempting to disrupt and weaken our relationships with that country and other members of NATO. It isn't in common usage today. The term you may be searching for is "Neo-Nazi." I don't think trump is one of them, either. I doubt that he has much knowledge of history at all, about the rise and fall of Hitler and his National Socialists, or of anything else.

    Perhaps you could look in Paraguay? Bolivia? I've even heard that there could be some boys in Brazil, but most Nazis are long dead, today. Good luck finding the real deal. Take a trip! Perhaps you will find what you seek, the real Nazis, the few left. America is having to deal with uneducated and possibly mentally challenged Neo-Nazis here, and their buddies in lunacy, White Supremacists.
     
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    Trump ain't a Nazi. He ain't anything. He has no ideology. He just panders.
     
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    He's a narcissist.
     
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    Trump is not a very smart man.
     
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    He is certainly that and a whole lot more, almost entirely unflattering and justifiably so, but the guy isn't a Nazi. He isn't old enough and doesn't fit the historical context of the term, in my humble opinion. I doubt that he really knows what the Nazis were, except from watching a few Hollywood or British films about the period, not exactly the best education on the topic, excepting a few truly excellent films that attempt not to stray too far from reality.
     
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    Trump got elected for a variety of reasons. Help from Russians who didn't want to see HRC elected is likely one of those reasons, but not the only one and not (in my opinion) the most important one.

    And no serious person thinks Trump is a Nazi. One of the focuses of his campaign was appealing to white folks who resent how they're treated relative to non-white folks. Racists who think they're better than non-white people and believe they are deserving of some privileged status relative to such people lapped that up. To them, his message validated their beliefs on race and gave them confidence that their views were now OK and reasonable. Did Trump intend that? I don't think so. Did he or does he care that's the effect his message had? Again, I don't think so.
     
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  10. jo mama

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    so let me get this straight...trump spent 8 years saying obama was born in kenya but when he decided to run for president he was too cowardly to stick with it.


    his primary ideology is to himself and his ego, but that does not change the fact that he has made mulitple racist comments and given aid and comfort to white supremacists.

    what a stupid thread...even by trader jorge standards.
     
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    Ya, he panders. He doesn't know enough about Nazis to be a Nazi. I don't think he really cares one way or the other about Jews. I do think he lacks empathy which makes it EASIER for him to pander to white nationalists.
     
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    Trump is
    my president
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    Mojoman, you're better than this. This was a really weak attempt at a thread...
     
  15. Rashmon

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    I'll play...

    Trump, the alt-right and the Kremlin: White supremacists’ Russia links are no secret
    More at the link....
     
  16. Rashmon

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    More from the article...

     
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  17. jo mama

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    haha...no he's not!
     
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    Yes, he's definitely a Naziist.

    /conservative filter against hypocritical leftists
     
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    I think we're still waiting for you to get it straight. I'm more than happy to let you get it straight, but so far, nothing you said there has it straight. So once you finally accomplish that, then perhaps we can have something to discuss.
     

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