Shenzhen has become the first city in China to ban eating cats and dogs

Don't straw-man me. I never said they were "just as bad" as Wuhan. Frankly, I don't particularly care which is "worse" because ANY wet market should cease to exist -- not just the ones with cats and dogs. Unlike yourself (and the other boomer '99er), I actually care for the well-being of all animals, not just the ones you arbitrarily place greater value towards. If you had a problem with wet markets and the treatment of the animals in these wet markets, you should also be outraged at how the animals you pay to be killed are treated. But you don't care about the well-being of animals. If you're truly outraged at the animal cruelty taking place in China, then you can't be complicit in animal cruelty yourself, otherwise you're just a massive hypocrite and China should tell you go to kick rocks.

Cows, pigs, chickens and turkeys have the same desire for life and threshold for pain as cats and dogs do. Maybe you should consider extending moral consideration to all animals. Just my $0.02. I'm done with this conversation.

 

For the 4th and hopefully final time, I agree with everyone that China's food regulations are abysmal. I also agree that food regulations all around the world, including the USA, are sorely lacking. I haven't made any argument on this and am not sure why it keeps getting brought up.

Also, it's a pretty **** thing to try to directly compare a very rich country to a very poor country.

Imagine some rich people disgusted at your family for not driving 100% electric cars, for not building a solar-paneled powered energy efficient low VOC house, for not eating 100% organically and locally produced foods.

Trust me, to some people, you live like a ****ing animal. The reality is a lot of people can't afford better, or just don't know better.

But again to be clear, my only argument here was that killing livestock mammals and cats/dogs is the same ethically. You and mr "shithole country" are looping me into arguments I never made.

 

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/211rank.html

Comparative to the USA yes.

Where you ever interested in my one and original point or were yall just looking to argue? lol

 

I tried to discuss things earlier, but you ignored me and then went full polemic, as you typically do. Good on ya, but that's not a great way to engender conversation.

And btw, shooting people in the face is an interesting policy position to take for someone who eschews bloodshed. You're from Long Island, right? I'm quite sure you have a firm grasp on how the rest of America works. Carry on.

 

The dude I was quoting said that people who eat cats and dogs should be shot in the f'n face, so I used his argument against him but replaced cats and dogs with animals he kills. But feel free to take me out of context anytime chief.

 

Going to try to make this my last post in here. I love animals and love people that love animals so fighting with some of you is the last thing I want to do.

I personally don't agree that chickens and pigs are the same as cats and dogs. I am speaking out against eating wildlife, the torturing of any animals for the sole purpose of optimizing flavor (thats fn barbaric) and selling live animals at any markets that aren't heavily regulated.

Can America do better in how it treats its animals? Undoubtedly so.

But I think we are a **** ton better then the PRC actually condoning these specific wet markets where live and dead, exotic and domesticated animals are all sold together that are constantly the epicenter of ****ed up diseases. And by many accounts China has allowed these markets to open again. How that doesn't bother everyone, including the Chinese, is beyond my comprehension.

 

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These are just a couple of photos (and one video) I personally took of the pop-up chicken wet-market that took place in Brooklyn last September. Each cage had about 20 birds packed in there for roughly 2-3 days without food or water. The fecal matter from the top cages would trickle down into the bottom cages where the other chickens were. They were completely unable to move and thousands were dead from infections, broken limbs, and starvation. The lucky survivors were ripped from the cages and had their throats cut with dull blades.

If you were to take the chickens out of these cages and replace them with cats and dogs...congrats... you've just successfully replicated a Chinese wet market! So you tell me exactly what the difference is between China and New York wet markets when it comes to the treatment of animals. Do you find this acceptable in any way? Or do you just not give a **** because they aren't cuddly kittens and puppies? All these birds were babies, by the way.

On the bright side, me and a few others rescued over 100 of these birds from slaughter and drove them all throughout the US to sanctuaries where they can live the remainder of their lives free from those who think it's acceptable to cause them harm, such as yourself.

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This is what I mean, I can’t stomach the earlier parts but how the **** are you going to boil/barbecue them alive? It’s contrarion dumbass mother****ers like @jacoby that try to create some false equivalency. Both can be viewed as bad but man is China a country devoid of morals.

 

Hey, dumb f*ck. Chickens are boiled alive in America too. Chickens are beheaded in America too. Chickens are crammed in cages in America too. Chickens die of thirst/starvation, abuse, exposure, broken limbs and infections in America too. Everything you're chastising China for doing, YOU are guilty of because you buy the meat of animals who have been boiled alive. We are guilty of the SAME thing China is guilty of, you're just too stupid to understand that cows, pigs, chickens and turkeys suffer just like cats and dogs do. The difference is that the farmed animals I listed (that you pay to be killed) are slaughtered on a much, much larger scale than cats and dogs are around the globe.

You can just admit you only care about cats and dogs, but that doesn't absolve you from being a giant hypocrite. You want to criticize Chinese people for their eating practices but somehow you think you're immune from criticism? Lol.

 

Keep it coming, keep it coming. Ironically, instead of spreading your message (which has some good points) you’re really doing a disservice. That’s the problem with people like you, it’s too bad

 

Your name is Chicken Bros., so you're likely a lost cause to his message.