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Rockets need to have eyes on Bradley Beal..

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets13champs, Nov 10, 2018.

  1. saleem

    saleem Contributing Member

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    Has Oubre signed an extension? Sportrac still has him on a 3.2 M contract. He will be tough to acquire, I admit.
     
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  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    There is no indication the Wizards want to make moves. Especially with Beal.

    Bazemore or Carroll is more likely at this time. But even with them, there is no "urgency" to make a trade. Might have to wait until the Trade Deadline.

    Rockets want to make moves NOW.....but no one else is selling. Big deal if players are available at the Trade Deadline if the Rockets have dug a big hole that they can't get out of.

    The timeline for other teams and the Rockets urgency aren't aligned.
     
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    I think Korver fits the timeline but the Cavs may not want to give into Korver’s demands to be traded.
     
  4. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Korver will be traded to someone. I think this is a given. But for what? Right now a 2nd round pick looks appropriate. Also consider Korver is 38!
     
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    Wouldn't want him for this season. He has been playing selfishly to try and inflate stats in a contract year.
     
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  6. Scarface

    Scarface Supremely FocASSed
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    You’re correct. I misspoke, he has not signed his extension and will be a restricted FA next year. Considering he doesn’t have a big cap number he might be packaged with Wall, Porter, or Beal to incentivize the other team to take on a big contract.

    Make no mistake the Wizards are ready to blow it up but objective number one is to get rid of Wall.

    Again I am 100% not an insider and have zero inter organizational knowledge. This is just understanding the business side of all of this. No owner of any business is willing to pay top dollar for mediocrity.
     
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    There's plenty of indications the Wizards want to make moves ASAP.

    1. They're losing money.
    2. They're a lottery team.
    3. They're in the luxury tax.
    4. They'll likely be in the tax next season....even after losing all their pending free agents. Or else they're stuck in the low end off the lottery, not making the playoffs. While paying Wall $38 million.

    Believe me, they're gonna deal if they possibly can. Beal is the most likely piece to stay. He's on a reasonable deal, still young, and productive. Wall and Porter are both way overpriced. They might suck in the TWolves or Suns to move Wall. But the T-Wolves want to stay out of the tax too. So....

    But there's no doubt...the Wizards are looking to deal. No doubt. And you don't need to hear rumors to know it.
     
  8. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

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    I mean... if the Wizards would do this, then heck yeah.

    But they won't.
     
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    You would think they won't hold out much longer. That ship hit the iceberg and can just stay afloat. But so many teams stubbornly hold out until forced to make a move.
     
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    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    No coincidence that Dwight is on yet another team ready to "blow it up".
     
  11. dmoneybangbang

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    Can he still knock down 3 pters for a second rounder? If so then lets do it.
     
  12. icewill36

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    this a pipe dream. you want of the wiz its going to be porter. they would love for some sucker to take him or wall of their hands. isiah thomas called porter out last night on NBATV as being a key reason for their terrible start. he is getting paid like a star but not producing.
     
  13. Mirri3000

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    Just remember, the Wizards said no to a James Harden / Brad Beal swap a few years ago. They are going to remember that for a long time, I bet they’d need the farm if they were to release him now.
     
  14. YOLO

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    would okc harden be who he is today next to wall all these years. not exactly a sure thing
     
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  15. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I was mostly talking about Beal. And no question from the OUTSIDE the factors colliding make sense that they would make moves. But not every GM does "sensible" moves. It made sense for the Wolves to be proactive on Butler, and they did not do the sensible thing and it burned them.

     
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    Having an understanding in business and having an understanding in Grunfeld are two different things.
    A normal business owner would have fired him half a decade ago.

    Wizards right now are only 1.5 game out of the playoffs and they play the Cavs tonight.
    They will probably be the 6th or 7th seed by next week's end with how dissapointing Charlotte has been lately. Apart from the top 5 teams, the rest of the East is bad.
     
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    [NY Times - Marc Stein - Nov 13, 2018]:
    Word is the Wolves did try to engage Washington — another team falling well short of expectations — in trade talks for the sharpshooting guard Bradley Beal.

    But the Wizards have kept Beal off limits amid their 4-9 start. They would naturally prefer to trade the struggling Otto Porter, or perhaps even John Wall, but both possess hard-to-move contracts.​
     
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  18. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Zero surprise here.

    Porter looks to me like a good player in a bad situation and thus deflated stats. But honestly, I haven't watched close enough to know for sure. Just feels like if he was given the right situation he could really flourish.
     
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    As the Washington Wizards' season spirals, the franchise has started to deliver teams an impression that every player on their roster -- including All-Star guards John Wall and Bradley Beal -- is available to discuss in trade scenarios, league sources told ESPN.

    Washington's preference remains to reshape the team around Wall and Beal, but poor play among key teammates is limiting their trade value and paralyzing the Wizards' efforts to make meaningful changes to a roster that no longer appears functional together, league sources said.

    The Wizards have resisted including Wall or Beal into previous trade talks, including discussions that they held for the league's past two available stars, Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler, league sources said. While Washington hasn't shopped its All-Star backcourt, it is rapidly becoming apparent to the organization that it needs to start considering overtures for them.

    Washington had hopes that forwards Otto Porter and Kelly Oubre could be centerpieces of deals that could return an impact third star, but those players have fetched minimal interest on the market. Porter has a massive contract on the books, including three years, $81 million left.

    Coach Scott Brooks was fierce in his criticism of the Wizards after back-to-back home losses to Brooklyn and Portland this weekend.

    "We got to just play with more enthusiasm, more effort, more energy," Brooks told reporters on Sunday night. "It's embarrassing."

    The Wizards are 5-11, just two games ahead of tanking Atlanta in the Southeast Division.

    Beal, 25, could turn out to be the guard with the most value on the trade market -- with his three-point shooting ability, a more manageable contract, and being three younger than Wall. Wall's contract extension starts in 2019-20, which will average $42 million annually over the next four years.

    What further complicates moving Wall is the inclusion of a 15 percent trade kicker in his deal. Wall is a five-time All-Star who's been a favorite of ownership.
     
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  20. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    The LA Lakers should probably do anything they can to be on the Bradley Beal talks. Unless of course they still have their hubris which is possible.

    Rockets and Pelicans should investigate Porter and Oubre.

    Suns should investigate John Wall.
     
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