Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

No it couldn't have been. They know where it came from and some of the names involved.

 

Who said this?

Spoiler: Answer

Senator Lindsey Graham, January 23, 1999.

 

The traction the Democrats would get, would be through obstruction of justice. The Democrats have a fairly strong case on that point.

Concerning conspiracy/collusion; the Mueller Report said that it cannot be ruled out but they could not find sufficient evidence of collusion and cited a lack of cooperation.

The Mueller Report was very clear on the issue of obstruction of justice. It gave a specific reason it did not comment on an indictment (legally it could not based on the position of the Justice department) but it (on it's own volition) stated that it is constitutional for congress to pursue obstruction of justice, stated that congress has a responsibility to do so, and said that it can also be pursued when the President is not longer in office. The Mueller Report laid out examples.... and provided a blue print for legal redress.

Now Congress needs to decide what they want to do. They have said they are not going to seek articles of impeachment, but now that the Report has been properly compared to the comments of Barr and it is pretty damning on the issue of obstruction of justice.

As it often the case, the cover up is worse than the crime.

 

Perhaps not but the origins of the entire investigation sure did (at least the parts of the investigation beginnings that are public knowledge). He added the part about the Trump tower meeting but neglected to point out the potential conflict with the Russian lawyer in regards to Fusion GPS and the ties to the Clintons. The fact that Natalia Veselnitskaya met with Fusion GPS both before and after the Trump Tower meeting seems at least somewhat likely to be a little bit more than coincidental. There are also questions as to how she was allowed into the country to begin with.

 

According to notes written by Hunt, when Sessions told the President that a Special Counsel had been appointed, the President slumped back in his chair and said, “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m ****ed.”

This report is a goldmine...

 

The investigation started because Trump fired Comey. The Dossier had nothing to do with anything

 

The investigation wasn't originated by the Mueller report. It is stated in the report where it originated. It was from a different report.

 

maybe try reading what mueller actually wrote:

The President returned to the consequences of the appointment and said, “Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me.”

The president was referring to the special counsel being a burden to him trying to run the country (it was).

 

It'll make a great movie one day.

 

And then proceeded to lie, instruct others to lie and cover up his deeds.

 

Maybe try reading the entire report. Maybe the part where Mueller advices Congress to decide if impeachment is the right course and that Trump will probably face indictments after he leaves office.

 

You are giving the Bill Barr treatment here of trying to use justification & understanding as pretense for saying a crime isn't a crime because you all should understand from his perspective why he did it.

That simply does not matter to the rule of law. The question of intent isn't about him having the intent knowing that he committed crimes he needed to cover up. Its having the intent that he understood what was happening, and understand the reality that he cannot just legally snap his fingers to make all of these legal headaches go away & he understood the seriousness of it.

The "Im F-ed" line is added for the reason of his defense team making a case after he's out of office that he didn't understand what a special prosecutor was, or that he was misled by his legal advisers. I could certainly see a defense from Trump's lawyers that so and so (Sessions potentially) told him he was on the up and up to fire Mueller or simply obstruct here and there. This section will be important in that case to where its well documented he knew the seriousness of a special prosecutor & knew it was something he couldn't just shut down with a flip of a switch without legal ramifications of obstruction.

 

Understanding that reading 400 pages of a legal report is not within the time constraints of most people's lives I think this guy probably has the most fair and balanced apolitical 10 minute summary of the conclusions:

 

No doubt the investigation was not started by the Mueller report. Why would you even state something like that which is so obvious it does not really need to be stated? No the initial investigation was supposedly started by the George P. meeting and then the "dossier". I think as the layers of the onion are peeled, we will find it started before either event. Either way, Mueller left things out of HIS report that would seem important for everyone to know like the Trump Tower lawyer's ties to Fusion GPS and that obvious Clinton link as well as the possibly questionable way she was granted access to the country.

 

Nope, Fusion GPS, Clinton, the Dossier all have nothing to do with this investigation.

The investigation was Russia's role in our election, and related crimes uncovered.

 

Surely you do realize that the investigation began in 2016. Mueller did not start until May 2017 after Comey was fired but the whole thing began much earlier.

 

What are your thoughts on Christopher Steele? His motives? Whether he was a competent MI6 agent who had experience in Russian intelligence?

 

Again, I am not talking about Mueller. The investigations into all of this started with the FBI and FISA warrants going back to 2016 before Mueller.

 

The investigation did not start because of the Steele Dossier. Mueller specifically names the report that started it. IT DID NOT ORIGINATE WITH THE STEELE DOSSIER .

 

What are your opinions of Steele?