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Robbins at the National Press Club

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  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Contributing Member

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    Transcript of the speech given by actor Tim Robbins to the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on April 15, 2003.

    TIM ROBBINS: Thank you. And thanks for the invitation. I had originally been asked here to talk about the war and our current political situation, but I have instead chosen to hijack this opportunity and talk about baseball and show business. (Laughter.) Just kidding. Sort of.

    I can't tell you how moved I have been at the overwhelming support I have received from newspapers throughout the country in these past few days. I hold no illusions that all of these journalists agree with me on my views against the war. While the journalists' outrage at the cancellation of our appearance in Cooperstown is not about my views, it is about my right to express these views. I am extremely grateful that there are those of you out there still with a fierce belief in constitutionally guaranteed rights. We need you, the press, now more than ever. This is a crucial moment for all of us.

    For all of the ugliness and tragedy of 9-11, there was a brief period afterward where I held a great hope, in the midst of the tears and shocked faces of New Yorkers, in the midst of the lethal air we breathed as we worked at Ground Zero, in the midst of my children's terror at being so close to this crime against humanity, in the midst of all this, I held on to a glimmer of hope in the naive assumption that something good could come out of it.

    I imagined our leaders seizing upon this moment of unity in America, this moment when no one wanted to talk about Democrat versus Republican, white versus black, or any of the other ridiculous divisions that dominate our public discourse. I imagined our leaders going on television telling the citizens that although we all want to be at Ground Zero, we can't, but there is work that is needed to be done all over America. Our help is needed at community centers to tutor children, to teach them to read. Our work is needed at old-age homes to visit the lonely and infirmed; in gutted neighborhoods to rebuild housing and clean up parks, and convert abandoned lots to baseball fields. I imagined leadership that would take this incredible energy, this generosity of spirit and create a new unity in America born out of the chaos and tragedy of 9/11, a new unity that would send a message to terrorists everywhere: If you attack us, we will become stronger, cleaner, better educated, and more unified. You will strengthen our commitment to justice and democracy by your inhumane attacks on us. Like a Phoenix out of the fire, we will be reborn.

    And then came the speech: You are either with us or against us. And the bombing began. And the old paradigm was restored as our leader encouraged us to show our patriotism by shopping and by volunteering to join groups that would turn in their neighbor for any suspicious behavior.

    In the 19 months since 9-11, we have seen our democracy compromised by fear and hatred. Basic inalienable rights, due process, the sanctity of the home have been quickly compromised in a climate of fear. A unified American public has grown bitterly divided, and a world population that had profound sympathy and support for us has grown contemptuous and distrustful, viewing us as we once viewed the Soviet Union, as a rogue state.

    This past weekend, Susan and I and the three kids went to Florida for a family reunion of sorts. Amidst the alcohol and the dancing, sugar-rushing children, there was, of course, talk of the war. And the most frightening thing about the weekend was the amount of times we were thanked for speaking out against the war because that individual speaking thought it unsafe to do so in their own community, in their own life. Keep talking, they said; I haven't been able to open my mouth.

    A relative tells me that a history teacher tells his 11-year-old son, my nephew, that Susan Sarandon is endangering the troops by her opposition to the war. Another teacher in a different school asks our niece if we are coming to the school play. They're not welcome here, said the molder of young minds.

    Another relative tells me of a school board decision to cancel a civics event that was proposing to have a moment of silence for those who have died in the war because the students were including dead Iraqi civilians in their silent prayer.

    A teacher in another nephew's school is fired for wearing a T- shirt with a peace sign on it. And a friend of the family tells of listening to the radio down South as the talk radio host calls for the murder of a prominent anti-war activist. Death threats have appeared on other prominent anti-war activists' doorsteps for their views. Relatives of ours have received threatening e-mails and phone calls. And my 13-year-old boy, who has done nothing to anybody, has recently been embarrassed and humiliated by a sadistic creep who writes -- or, rather, scratches his column with his fingernails in dirt.

    Susan and I have been listed as traitors, as supporters of Saddam, and various other epithets by the Aussie gossip rags masquerading as newspapers, and by their fair and balanced electronic media cousins, 19th Century Fox. (Laughter.) Apologies to Gore Vidal. (Applause.)

    Two weeks ago, the United Way canceled Susan's appearance at a conference on women's leadership. And both of us last week were told that both we and the First Amendment were not welcome at the Baseball Hall of Fame.

    A famous middle-aged rock-and-roller called me last week to thank me for speaking out against the war, only to go on to tell me that he could not speak himself because he fears repercussions from Clear Channel. "They promote our concert appearances," he said. "They own most of the stations that play our music. I can't come out against this war."

    And here in Washington, Helen Thomas finds herself banished to the back of the room and uncalled on after asking Ari Fleischer whether our showing prisoners of war at Guantanamo Bay on television violated the Geneva Convention.

    A chill wind is blowing in this nation. A message is being sent through the White House and its allies in talk radio and Clear Channel and Cooperstown. If you oppose this administration, there can and will be ramifications.

    Every day, the air waves are filled with warnings, veiled and unveiled threats, spewed invective and hatred directed at any voice of dissent. And the public, like so many relatives and friends that I saw this weekend, sit in mute opposition and fear.

    I am sick of hearing about Hollywood being against this war. Hollywood's heavy hitters, the real power brokers and cover-of-the- magazine stars, have been largely silent on this issue. But Hollywood, the concept, has always been a popular target.

    I remember when the Columbine High School shootings happened. President Clinton criticized Hollywood for contributing to this terrible tragedy -- this, as we were dropping bombs over Kosovo. Could the violent actions of our leaders contribute somewhat to the violent fantasies of our teenagers? Or is it all just Hollywood and rock and roll?

    I remember reading at the time that one of the shooters had tried to enlist to fight the real war a week before he acted out his war in real life at Columbine. I talked about this in the press at the time. And curiously, no one accused me of being unpatriotic for criticizing Clinton. In fact, the same radio patriots that call us traitors today engaged in daily personal attacks on their president during the war in Kosovo.

    Today, prominent politicians who have decried violence in movies -- the "Blame Hollywooders," if you will -- recently voted to give our current president the power to unleash real violence in our current war. They want us to stop the fictional violence but are okay with the real kind.

    And these same people that tolerate the real violence of war don't want to see the result of it on the nightly news. Unlike the rest of the world, our news coverage of this war remains sanitized, without a glimpse of the blood and gore inflicted upon our soldiers or the women and children in Iraq. Violence as a concept, an abstraction -- it's very strange.

    As we applaud the hard-edged realism of the opening battle scene of "Saving Private Ryan," we cringe at the thought of seeing the same on the nightly news. We are told it would be pornographic. We want no part of reality in real life. We demand that war be painstakingly realized on the screen, but that war remain imagined and conceptualized in real life.

    And in the midst of all this madness, where is the political opposition? Where have all the Democrats gone? Long time passing, long time ago. (Applause.) With apologies to Robert Byrd, I have to say it is pretty embarrassing to live in a country where a five-foot- one comedian has more guts than most politicians. (Applause.) We need leaders, not pragmatists that cower before the spin zones of former entertainment journalists. We need leaders who can understand the Constitution, congressman who don't in a moment of fear abdicate their most important power, the right to declare war to the executive branch. And, please, can we please stop the congressional sing-a- longs? (Laughter.)

    In this time when a citizenry applauds the liberation of a country as it lives in fear of its own freedom, when an administration official releases an attack ad questioning the patriotism of a legless Vietnam veteran running for Congress, when people all over the country fear reprisal if they use their right to free speech, it is time to get angry. It is time to get fierce. And it doesn't take much to shift the tide. My 11-year-old nephew, mentioned earlier, a shy kid who never talks in class, stood up to his history teacher who was questioning Susan's patriotism. "That's my aunt you're talking about. Stop it." And the stunned teacher backtracks and began stammering compliments in embarrassment.

    Sportswriters across the country reacted with such overwhelming fury at the Hall of Fame that the president of the Hall admitted he made a mistake and Major League Baseball disavowed any connection to the actions of the Hall's president. A bully can be stopped, and so can a mob. It takes one person with the courage and a resolute voice.

    The journalists in this country can battle back at those who would rewrite our Constitution in Patriot Act II, or "Patriot, The Sequel," as we would call it in Hollywood. We are counting on you to star in that movie. Journalists can insist that they not be used as publicists by this administration. (Applause.) The next White House correspondent to be called on by Ari Fleischer should defer their question to the back of the room, to the banished journalist du jour. (Applause.) And any instance of intimidation to free speech should be battled against. Any acquiescence or intimidation at this point will only lead to more intimidation. You have, whether you like it or not, an awesome responsibility and an awesome power: the fate of discourse, the health of this republic is in your hands, whether you write on the left or the right. This is your time, and the destiny you have chosen.

    We lay the continuance of our democracy on your desks, and count on your pens to be mightier. Millions are watching and waiting in mute frustration and hope - hoping for someone to defend the spirit and letter of our Constitution, and to defy the intimidation that is visited upon us daily in the name of national security and warped notions of patriotism.

    Our ability to disagree, and our inherent right to question our leaders and criticize their actions define who we are. To allow those rights to be taken away out of fear, to punish people for their beliefs, to limit access in the news media to differing opinions is to acknowledge our democracy's defeat. These are challenging times. There is a wave of hate that seeks to divide us -- right and left, pro-war and anti-war. In the name of my 11-year-old nephew, and all the other unreported victims of this hostile and unproductive environment of fear, let us try to find our common ground as a nation. Let us celebrate this grand and glorious experiment that has survived for 227 years. To do so we must honor and fight vigilantly for the things that unite us -- like freedom, the First Amendment and, yes, baseball. (Applause.)
     
  2. Batman Jones

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    My lord, that was inspirational. If he won't run for president he should write the speeches for someone who will.
     
  3. Oski2005

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    I don't know if Robbins wrote that, but it's good speech none the less. Let us take a moment to enjoy it before it gets bashed in here.
     
  4. Fatty FatBastard

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    Yawn.

    Good speech that inheirently decried the freedom of speech.

    Tim: We get it! You can say whatever you want. Just prepare people to vocally disagree with you.

    BTW: It's also anyone's right to say you're not invited to something that they are in charge of, sans idiot teacher.

    Largest point being: You can whine about this all you want, just realize that when the majority are against you, and you are in the public eye, expect some backlash.

    Carry on.:rolleyes:
     
  5. Playercentral

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    Freedom of speech.
    People do not like it then they need to leave the US, as with some teachers they never know when to keep their mouths shut.
    I agree with expressing your opinion, but telling a 11 year old his aunt is causing death or causing danger to troops is nuts and he or she should be canned on their A$$.
    That to me is not Freedom of speech but Mindfull torment to a child.
     
  6. DCkid

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    Yep, Tim is all for free speech...as long as it's not abot him. He can dish it out, but he can't take it.

    As far as the speech, if you're for the war you're probably not going to like it, if you're against the war you're probably going to love it.

    Do I agree with freedom of speech? Of course! And as far as I know he's still free to speak his ass off. Yes, there could be repercussions by private organizations when an employee or someone connected to the organization expresses an opinion on a controversial subject. But, that is not the Government doing the censoring.

    What he really needs to fight for our laws preventing private organizations or companies from reacting unfavorably to expressed opinions. Of course, then you would be taking away the rights of private groups, so I don't know how that would work.

    The stupid Hall of Fame thing was ridiculous, but there is nothing illegal about it. Augusta forbidding women from joining theire club is ridiculous, but there's nothing illegal about it. A movie or music company dropping an actor or artist who expresses an opinion that lowers the public opinion of that person is just good business...and there's nothing illegal about it.

    Until the Governement directly violates Tim's right to free speech, I don't think he has anything to complain about except maybe the right of private groups to run their organization however they see fit.
     
  7. Hammer755

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    Yes, because you know that First Amendment provides us all with the unalienable right to speak at the Baseball Hall of Fame.
     
  8. Hammer755

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    This guy is so out of touch with reality that it's frightening.

    He says "And then came the speech: You are either with us or against us. And the bombing began." I think you'll find very few people who where not in favor of bombing Afghanistan and removing the Taliban from power.

    He says "A unified American public has grown bitterly divided." I hate to break it to Mr. Robbins, but 70% of the US population support the President. Just because the vocal minority dissent very loudly does not mean the entire nation is bitterly divided.

    He says "we have seen our democracy compromised by fear and hatred." Yet what does he do in this speech? He gives several isolated incidents that are designed to instill fear in those listening. The very fear-mongering that he is denouncing earlier in the monologue. To top things off, he throws in a Columbine reference to get everyone nice and emotional.

    That's the problem with people like Tim Robbins, they play on people's emotions rather than people's intellect.
     
  9. codell

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    Thats nice Tim. However, this is not a movie and even if this were to happen, it does nothing to lower the risk of terror attacks. I would much rather have a proactive stance on terror than a Leizafaire (sp.) attitude.
     
  10. johnheath

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    Tim, Batman, and Oski all agree on one thing- Freedom of Speech is a one way street.
     
  11. giddyup

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    Apparently playing Nuke LaLouche was in character for this guy!
     
  12. Falcons Talon

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    Here's a clue for the clueless:
    Freedom of speech guarantees us the right to say anything we want. It does NOT guarantee us the right to say it anyWHERE we want to...


    I would like to know if this guy leads by example or just likes to stir up the hornets nest. How much of his time and money is given to these good causes?



    Yeah yeah yeah...your cousin's roomate's brother's pharmacist's nephew said what?

    Well, I guess his belief just wasn't strong enough to risk him losing some revenue.


    [whining]
    Robbins: I disagree with this administrations action.
    Petroskey: It is your first amendment right to say that
    Robbins: I believe that they are wrong to do this.
    Petroskey: I disagree.
    Robbins: Oh well, at least I can increase my popularity by speaking at the Baseball Hall of Fame.
    Petroskey: I disagree.
     
  13. No Worries

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    Add Bush Jr to this list.
     
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    And curiously, no one accused me of being unpatriotic for criticizing Clinton. In fact, the same radio patriots that call us traitors today engaged in daily personal attacks on their president during the war in Kosovo.

    Ding, ding, ding. Give the man a prize. He hit the nail on the head.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    I love how the idiot Hall of Fame guy canceled the Bull Durham event because of political reasons, then invited Ari Fleischer to speak there.
     
  16. Hammer755

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    Of course, now I remember all of the anti-war rallies that took place during the Kosovo conflict. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    I don't agree with what the Hall of Fame did, but Tim Robbins is obnoxious. The guy acts like he has no freedom of speech, yet he is delivering these types of speeches everywhere!

    Here's his REAL problem- most of America completely disagrees with Mr. Bull Durham on the issues of the war on terrorism and Iraq.
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    I remember Clinton bombing Iraq for 4 days. Unfortunately he didn't stand up to the UN and stopped the bombing.
     
  19. ron413

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    It is funny how Robbins is backtracking from taking a strong stand against certain injustices of the war and his message is getting so diluted that he will soon have absolutely nothing to say about the war. It will just be one random event in his life after another about what has happened since the Hall of Fame would not let him speak his rhetoric.
     
  20. Rocketman95

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    He and his wife Susan had no intentions of "speaking their rhetoric" at the Hall of Fame.

    Of course, I don't think their rhetoric is as bad as saying someone's opinions could endanger soldiers' lives. If an actor's words can harm the lives of our soldiers, I'm honestly surprised we beat Iraq.
     

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