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RAC and the Defense

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rocket River, Jan 13, 2020.

  1. DatRocketFan

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    It doesnt matter who we have as dc, if offense is shtty or incomsistent
     
  2. No Worries

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    All Texans threads appear to devolve into ... Fire Bill!!!
     
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  3. DonnyMost

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    Literally the franchise trademark at this point.
     
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  4. DonnyMost

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    That's because we are treating the symptoms and not the disease.
     
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    Y tho? It's not like the Texans were listening to Olsen's advice on the cap while he was here. And if he was OK with, for example, the Nick Martin deal, the Texans are better off without him.

    RAC had to be canned after that game. We'll see if Weaver's an improvement or not. I agree with the poster who said that incestuous moves like this are a hallmark of bad teams, but let's give Weaver a chance.
     
  6. JayZ750

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    One of the lesser discussed but even worse aspects to the KC loss was the "masked" offense.
    Blocked punt for a touchdown.
    Punt return fumble by KC that made a touchdown basically a wide open layup.
    The offense basically scored 17 points.

    Not that most of us here on this board are ignoring the fact the offense has sucked under BillyO forever, but I'm sure he's internally framing it as "we gave up 51 points, the defense was the problem". All those resources spent on offense and it still was meh when it counted. Don't forget they were bad the week before, too. Absolutely, against good defenses... those are the types of defenses you play in the playoffs.

    Even though he'd still be relatively bad at his job, I've said many times, if BillyO would just
    - hire a legit OC and let him run the offense, or
    - be happy to just be the GM, and hire a new coach

    It'd be a win-win.
     
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  7. DonnyMost

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    7 of those 17 points was a gift off a blown coverage, too. We generated 10 points that weren't a direct result of an unforced error on KC's part.

    If we had an offense that could have kept the ball and generated points consistently it would have made for a much more competitive second half.

    You are correct. The score masks just how terrible our offense was that game. KC was going to have its quick strike moments. And our special teams gifted them a touchdown too. The defense was obviously bad, but the lack of offense is what really made that game unwinnable.
     
  8. JayZ750

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    Right. Definitely not discounting how bad the defense was also, or how good KC's offense is.

    Sometimes another team's offense might be on a roll. Beyond being good at defense, being good at offense can also help prevent this, obviously.

    In the middle of their 2nd quarter run, BillyO got to that horrendous 4th down fake punt call because he went Hyde up the middle two straight plays, effectively, before an obvious third down passing play that wasn't successful.

    But this has been talked about ad naseum - where are the rub routes, where are the RB screens, where are the pre-snap motion plays that don't result in a penalty (this is coaching), where are plays that naturally take advantage of DW pocket es-capability instead of just hoping he figures it out, etc, etc?

    On the first touchdown that was a blown KC coverage. Yes, it was an error by KC. But of note to me, it's just another example of the offense seemingly working better when you just let DW figure it out, as he correctly audible'd into it.

    I can't say exactly what the coaches were saying/thinking DW's rookie year. But what it LOOKED like to me was that after Savage CLEARLY didn't work, and they had a week to "prepare" for DW's first start, they said, let's include a lot of college/Clemson like stuff he's familiar with to not over-complicate it. Certainly, there were problems with that - still too many sacks, too many interceptions - but the offense also worked really well. But in classic BillyO fashion, in an effort not to lose the game (as opposed to going out and winning it), instead of saying how can we keep this high flying offense and mitigate the risks, he instead forced his crap boring **** onto DW.

    Having enough talent and playing not to lose is the definition of BillyO as a coach, and now the McNairs as owners.

    But has any team ever won a ring with that style? Even conservative offense teams that won with dominant defenses - those defenses didn't just go "prevent" all year - defensively the schemed to win.
     
  9. RasaqBoi

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    This franchise is a joke.
     
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    Even though he's starting to prove himself a good HC, the year Vrabel spent as DC, our defense ranked 32nd in points allowed and 20th in yards allowed. RAC's defenses had better years before and after the Vrabel "era".

    Let's hope for better results from Weaver.
     
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    Getting rid of all of the incompetent coaches except B.O.B.

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  14. thedude077

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    The reason for the bad defense last year under Romeo Crennel is because of the bad players. They need to build that secondary this offseason.
     

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