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Putin's Useful Idiot At Work

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Dec 30, 2016.

  1. dobro1229

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    I find this fascinating in a frightening kind of way.

    There are signals all over the place that Russia could break ties with Iran sometime soon which would spell disaster for the region with Trump/GOP wanting like hell to have the ability to push for regime change and potentially kill a whole lot of Persians.

    The “partnership over the security of Israel” imo is a signal to Iran that the US and Russia could be coming for your a$$ together as an alliance and with Russia controlling Syria via Assad, it’s really going to choke the life out of Iran if Putin turns on them.

    If you are a Islamic fundamentalist that believes in apocalyptic prophecy... yeah. Two “Christian” armies essentially taking over two major Islamic countries just like that.. yeah nobody should be shocked when that causes major unrest in the region.
     
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  3. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    What do you not understand about the POTUS as at-best a useful idiot to a foreign dictator is on the same level as individual foreigner voting in local community issues they reside in?
     
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    I dont pay attention to politics mostly because i dont believe anything i read and hear cause everything is biased

    Can someone explain to me why Russia is now enemy number one and Trump is Putins lapdog?
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Because Hillary lost the election and her supporters blame Russia for it. That's pretty much the basis for that narrative.
     
  6. JeffB

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    If you don't believe anything you read or hear because everything is biased, then this is definitely the wrong place to seek clarity. Your best bet is to identify journalists/editors/publications you trust most and dive into their archives on the matter. Then make up your own mind.

    To be helpful, here is some primer material:

    Why Putin is targeting the U.S.:
    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/putins-revenge/

    The indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers involved in hacking the DNC:
    http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...nt-of-12-russians-for-hacking-democrats/3087/

    The indictment filed against the Russian agent who infiltrated the NRA and RNC:


    The Trump-Russia connection, based on public evidence:
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html

    Washington Post tracker of the publicly known outcomes of the investigation into Russian activity in the 2016 U.S. election:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...-indictments-timeline/?utm_term=.cf5c6f992192
     
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    [​IMG]
    Ron Paul: We Can Tell Trump-Putin Summit Was A Success Because "Neocons Aren't Very Happy"

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  10. adoo

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    you can't possibly be this ignorant,

    not know that the Helsinki summit was the only meeting held after all of the POTUS's own intels had confirmed that
    Putin had ordered the hacking of emails belonging to both DNC and RNC, as well as to spread dis-information on social media
    to sow discord among US voters​
     
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    You don't pay attention to anything, I guess.

    If you won't read the news, why believe someone's summary of things here? Wouldn't that also be subject to bias?
     
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    Who put together that bs montage? FOX News?
     
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    He is a troll, so yeah he can. Actually he may not be all that ignorant, he just plays one on The Internet.
     
  16. PatBev

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    lol upon all my research at work today that seemed to be the conclusion. Still dont understand why the media freakout
     
  17. PatBev

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    Yeah once religion or politics comes up I walk away from the conversation
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's complicated. Russia meddled in US elections to help elect Trump. Trump has had this evidence from a myriad of agencies within the US government from before he took office but refuses to hold Russia accountable for its actions. He continues to play up bogus weirdo conspiracy theories about a deep state trying to tarnish his election and continues to take Putin, a former KGB operative, at his word over his own intelligence agencies.

    Then we have the stupid Trump supporters who are more interested in rehashing history to deflect from this situation. Oh Hillary and her emails and Benghazi and blah blah blah, Breitbart and Info Wars and Gateway Punditing all kinds of deep state Clinton tin hat conspiracies. If it were Clinton involved in this Russian meddling scenario these people would be going ape **** about it but since it's their boy they have chosen their party of their country, a shameful, disgusting display.

    Then we have the fact that many people in and around Trump's campaign and administration have lied about their ties to Russians and meetings with Russians. We also have Trump's campaign manager and his son meeting with Russian spies and lying about it. Trump lying about knowledge of the meeting.

    Then we have Trump, who has a long history of investments and business dealings in Russia and with Russians, refusing to release his tax returns despite promising to do so. There's a significant possibility of money laundering going on considering Manafort has been indicted for such.

    Then we have evidence of Russians donating money to the NRA and infiltrating the NRA with a Russian spy. The same NRA that is a huge Trump supporter.

    So, yeah, nothing to see here. Derp.
     
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  19. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Look at his join date. Look at the cut-paste behavior. Look at the monolithically one-sidedness of it. Do the math, and use the ignore function. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Then perhaps the board where the purpose is to debate and discuss politics, religion, and other controversial topics isn't the best place for you to focus your energy.
     
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