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Patrick Patterson - maybe not as bright a star as originally thought

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by vince, Mar 14, 2012.

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  1. vince

    vince Member

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    I'll start off, he's definitely NBA material. Just not star material.

    I was thinking last season that Patrick Patterson would be the future of the Rockets starting power forward. I thought there was a diamond in the rough. But now into his sophmore season, I think that Patrick Patterson is showing he'd be a good back up at best type player.

    He doesn't go inside, for the amount of minutes he plays he averages only 0.6 free throw attempts per game. To me that means that he is a jump shooter and is not comfortable getting beat up around the rim. He settles, which would be fine for a Small forward or a guard; after all those guys make their living shooting outside. But not so for Power Forwards, those guys need to be around the basket or impose their way under the basket.

    At his current rate of production, if he were playing 30 minutes a game, he'd be averaging about 10 to 11 points a game and getting about 6 to 6.5 rebounds a game. Hardly starters worthy production.

    He's merely a nice bench player, and not the potential star I was thinking the Rockets had.

    One disclaimer, I listen to the games on the Radio so I'm not viewing the little things he might do that don't come into the box score or get mentioned on the radio.

    So, what's y'all impression of his future potential???
     
    #1 vince, Mar 14, 2012
  2. Yung-T

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    Career backup PF or starter for mediocre teams, that's his ceiling right now if he doesn'T improve drastically.
     
    #2 Yung-T, Mar 14, 2012
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    Sophomore slump.
     
    #3 htownrox1, Mar 14, 2012
  4. cheke64

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    Solid player at the 4.
     
    #4 cheke64, Mar 14, 2012
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    vince - maybe not as patient as he should be.
     
    #5 coachbadlee, Mar 14, 2012
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    This year has definitely been a step backwards. The athleticism is still clearly there, but it seems like he lost a lot of confidence after a slow start to the year. He's got great post moves; they just didn't fall, and he gave up that part of his game after about a month.

    I haven't given up. He's either going to be a hit or a bust. I don't believe he'll settle into something in between like Ariza has done. Next year hopefully he'll be healthy to start the year and fulfill my initial hopes in him becoming the next David West or Paul Millsapp. He's actually got better hops, better length, and better defense than both of those guys. At least he did last year. His jump shot was comparable without nearly the same range. If he can put it all together with a post game, watch out. He's still got a chance to be borderline allstar-quality.
     
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    He really didn't get much to recover from that surgery. Lets see what he does next season. That should be an indicator.
     
    #8 jayhow92, Mar 14, 2012
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    Why the hate? Can we wait at least a day after his game saving block on one the most athletic players in the league.
     
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    My "impression" of him is that he is doing everything that he is being asked to do at this stage in his career.

    How about we see what he does as a you know a "starter" before we completely write his entire career off as nothing more than a "solid backup".
     
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    He ain't got no damn post moves.
     
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    Right now he seems to be a great off the bench big man but that's it. I think he can develop a little more.
     
    #12 VBG, Mar 14, 2012
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    the only thing pat has to work on his post moves
     
    #13 mr. 13 in 33, Mar 14, 2012
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    A question that I was pondering a few days ago but didn't want to start a new thread about... who would you rather have on your team, Patterson or Taj Gibson? I feel like they are both in that same tier of really good young 4s with loads of potential, but their games are different from each others. What do you guys think?
     
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  15. DonnyMost

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    This year just set up poorly for him.

    Lockout, coach change, injuries.

    He'll be fine. Definite starter material.
     
    #15 DonnyMost, Mar 14, 2012
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    He had off-season surgery, which definitely limited his mobility at the beginning of the season due to the lockout. I think he's rounding into shape right about now, and from this point forward, we will see him make strides. Patience is a virtue. The kid is in his second year.
     
    #16 Fyreball, Mar 14, 2012
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    Well, offensively he doesn't have those low post moves that a star player normally has, so that is holding him back. I think he is a pretty good defensive player, and his rebounding numbers would be fine if were getting starters minutes. I think he is still working on his offense and he will continue to improve in that area.

    A borderline starter from where he was drafted is not great, but it's not terrible either. It's not unusual for first round draft picks to be total flops, we should know as we have several from the 2009 class. If all he turns out to be is a solid backup, I'm not too disappointed as I didn't expect him to be a star player.

    I'm more concerned about Morris at this point. I didn't expect Morris to be a star either, but I thought he might get a little playing time.
     
    #17 Rip Van Rocket, Mar 14, 2012
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    Wouldn't give up on him just yet. All-star?? Maybe not, but I don't see why he can't eventually be one of those "bordline" guys, ala Martin, Lowry, and Scola.
     
    #18 finsraider, Mar 14, 2012
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    PP

    Solid thread(Not) coming the day after he's saves the Day in Ok City !!!

    Dude coming of Surgery has been progressing very nicely this season. I look for big things from PP . . .
     
    #19 zcity, Mar 14, 2012
  20. cardpire

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    none of these guys that morey has received heaps of undue praise for drafting have been as bright a star as originally thought. (bud, patt, brooks, etc.)

    they simply are forced into tons of minutes as a rookie, and end up putting up decent rookie stats as a result of the minutes. then they stagnate, and people are in shock.
     
    #20 cardpire, Mar 14, 2012
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