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Our limited guard & overall rotation

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by vlaurelio, Dec 12, 2017.

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What do you think of our limited guard & overall rotation?

  1. We are at a disadvantage it's on Morey to make minor moves on the roster

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  2. We are at a disadvantage it's on MDA to develop and trust the guys in his roster

    24.4%
  3. We are at a disadvantage it's on both Morey and MDA to resolve this

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  4. We are not a disadvantage the players just have to play better, harder, and smarter

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  1. D-rock

    D-rock Member

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    So you seriously believe that Harden is incapable of improving his skills outside of Chris Paul giving him mental and physical rest?

    Think we both are agreeing that Harden has improved but insisting your stance is incontrovertible is picking nits. The important point is that Harden and team has improved, right?
     
  2. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    As much as I would like to see us introduce another competent guard into our rotation, that's much harder than most would anticipate. Maybe if Beverley or even Lin were still available, we could try and trade for them at the deadline as they both have experience in our system, but any guard we bring in right now short of a dedicated shooter is going to be relegated to the bench IMO. I would like to see Troy develop into a SG that we can swap in and out while we have Ego run point in spurts or even trade for Troy Daniels again if Memphis completely implodes this season.
     
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  3. D-rock

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    Missing finals MVP
     
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  4. bongman

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    I don't know why I do, but I am warm to the idea of Briante getting better too. He strikes me as this journey man like player who wants to prove that he belongs in the league - ala Bev.
     
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  5. Rocket River

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    Iggy is a guard? I could have swore he was a Small Forward .. . the depth charts I saw put him there

    Rocket River
     
  6. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    harden was the true MVP last year

    he wasn't any better not because he was limited by the cast around him

    we didn't win more than 55 games not because of harden
    but because of what he had around him

    put him in the warriors last year inplace of durant and they still sweep lebron

    morey and mda know 55 wins was the limit of that team. no amount of improvement from harden could have changed that teams outlook.
    even lebron or durant couldn't have carried that team to more wins

    the team had to be improved first thats why morey

    1. got another superstar who can take pressure of harden and can let him rest
    2. got 2 more physical competitive 3 & d defenders

    having cp3 playmaking and taking pressure and double/triple teams away from harden and getting more rest gave him fresher legs which let to better 3 point efficiency

    being fresher mentally & physically plus less defensive pressure and doving cuble/triple teams made him commit less errors and turnovers

    having cp3 made harden make any shortcuts to save energy because he knew they can alternate possesions and if he sat cp3 was gonna take over for him

    having cp3, lma, tucker instead of bev, lou, dekker, harrel made the whole team including harden defend better

    having a superstar and a good team around you makes everything easier

    ask durant

    its not like he improved anything from okc to gsw

    the more rest a shooter has, less defensive pressure then the more lift he gets and more open he gets resulting in better efficiency

    the less guarded/double teamed a scorer or playmaker is and the fresher he is results in a faster first step, crispier passes meaning better scoring and playmaking

    physical & mental rest & less pressure = efficient all around

    one of the reasons why kerr has a deep rotation and employ rest strategies for his stars.. so his shooters, playmakers, and defenders are always efficient

    same with pops
     
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  8. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    This poll seems to have definitive results.
     
  9. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    Lou Williams was high octane garbage. Cheetos to our balanced nutritious diet.

    Money did his best with what was available, but I think it's Mike's job to give quality minutes to scrubs and spell the starters during the 82 game grind.
     
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  11. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.
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    For the poll, didn’t vote because I don’t think we’re disadvantaged.

    It would be a luxury to add a 4th guard worth playing 5-10m a game. Troy, zhou and black are all good 3rd string insurance policies at F and C.

    Maybe that’s Weber. We joke but Brown is a good shooter and clearly, jokes aside, is a chemistry piece.

    The question is who can they add without giving up something? Black is the only trading piece IMO because even I still believe onuaku has a future.
     
  12. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    thats the last option I just forgot the "at"

    We are not at a disadvantage the players just have to play better, harder, and smarter
     
  13. jdjd

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    If we add a guard, it would be impossible to have either Harden or Paul on the floor at all times, which MD said he plans on doing.

    The most important thing to the Rockets right now is trying to hold on to that one spot to have home court advantage in the playoffs. So they're going balls to the wall as long as they can. Maybe if there's an injury to one of them we go shopping around the deadline, but if not nope.

    With the added rest added into the schedule this season, the fact that there are no back to backs in the playoffs, and the fact that Harden has Paul now to run things while he rests, we really don't need another guard.

    To get anyone else any playing time whatsoever in the regular season, would mean they would have to be on the floor with Gordon, which we won't do.
     
  14. bongman

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    Nash, Stoudamire and Marion count? How about developing coaches, where did Kerr learned this system that GS is currently running?
     
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  15. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    why you so defensive. MDA's system is dependent on having a godly playmaker.. Nash, Harden, Cp3

    what has he done with NY, LA, or Philly? he lucked into Harden.. Harden resurrected MDA's career.. and now Paul too

    MDA's system is limited to 8 max players.. he cannot develop and manage minutes and substitutions beyond that

    Kerrs and Pops system can develop good players into a great team .. they can handle the complexity and management of rotations of 10 players upwards

    fresher players will always be better than worn out players

    a fresher harden >>>>> a worn out harden

    a fresher cp3 >>>>> a worn out cp3

    a fresh klay > a worn out harden

    see how that works?

    rest = good
    fatigue = bad

    32 minutes a game = good
    40 minutes a game = bad
     
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    Cleverly disguised "Let me make excuses for Harden in case he quits in the playoffs again" thread from @vlaurelio. Have some hope man. The team is ballin and CP3 should be enough to help Harden stay focused. Him, Ego and Jim are more than capable of holding it down.
     
  17. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    @swyyyguy @Progs
    Awe cf couple defending each other

    Gotta keep the game 6 whine alive to be relevant
     
  18. D-rock

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    He's a wing but he handles the ball like a point. GSW is all about positionless basketball, but the best facilitators are obviously:

    Green
    AI
    Livingston
    Curry
    Durant

    Rockets really only have Beard and CP3, the Prince and EGo are emergency ball handlers.
     
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  20. DM'sVP

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    Another gaurdl would be nice, but let's face it. MDA is only going to play 9 players, regular season or playoffs. If you want a different system, then you want a different coach. Try finding 5 better coaches RIGHT NOW than MDA, then we can talk.
     

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