First of all, with the amount of cases in the Houston area I think reopening schools for In class instruction is going to make things worse. Maybe, if teachers, bus drivers, all school personnel and students were tested daily like the people in the White House then it could be managed somewhat. That won't happen though. Not only would it be too costly, but unless they got same day results it wouldn't even be that effective in stopping the spread. You also have to consider all the people those hundreds at each school are in contact with every day outside school. Now you are talking thousands of people in that circle for each and every school. You also have substitutes and therapists who work at several schools. So, obviously Special Ed teachers, therapists, etc.. won't be able to social distance with the moderate to severe children. It might even be near impossible to get some of them to wear a mask, and not put their mouth and hands over everything. Now, you come to the part where on a daily basis kids come to school sick. This is even worse when the children are non-verbal. If you have ever been inside a nurse's office you will see what a busy place it is on an ordinary day. So, now the nurse is put in a position of making an educated guess as to whether a child may have Coronavirus and need to be sent home and tested. It's a guess. Here's the symptoms from the CDC site. Both COVID-19 and flu can have varying degrees of signs and symptoms, ranging from no symptoms (asymptomatic) to severe symptoms. Common symptoms that COVID-19 and flu share include: Fever or feeling feverish/chills Cough Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing Fatigue (tiredness) Sore throat Runny or stuffy nose Muscle pain or body aches Headache Some people may have vomiting and diarrhea, though this is more common in children than adults https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm Cold or Coronavirus? To worry or not to worry? It's just a risky situation. The wrong call, whether the child gets tested or not, whether you have parents not testing them because they say it's a cold, and so on. Meanwhile, maybe that child with a "cold" is actually positive. Then you add in asymptomatic carriers. It's just crazy, with no proven vaccine, in a city which is a Covid hot spot. Your thoughts?
I've been trying to find out from the school the dimensions of the classroom I will teach in (approx. 20' x 20'). It's like Top Secret info now! The students have a right to know what they are walking into. If you are a parent, don't you want to know: how big is my child's classroom exactly? And how many students will be in it? I will have four sets of students pass through my classroom in one day. The school says it will clean high-contact surfaces such as desks twice in one day. You might want to know if other sets of students use your child's classroom.
It is a miserable conundrum. The city of San Francisco has put nearly all schooling into remote operation for the rest of this calendar year, and that's going to have it's own set of heartbreaks. I'll just leave this recent news here about the campers in Georgia. https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/hu...-cdc-report-finds/EL5FFTVSDVETRGROPEXK6CIZNM/ Nearly half of everyone involved, including kids, counsellors, staff, came down with the virus. And ages 6-10 seemed the most vulnerable to contracting it. They met together for just a few days, apparently. Ugh.
Study after study shows that kids under 10 y/o rarely transmit the disease and are minimally impacted by the disease even if they do get it. Asymptomatic COVID patients rarely transmit the disease. This is a disease of the ELDERLY, and lethal almost exclusively in people who are very old and who already have major medical problems. Yes there are exceptions, but statistically not enough to change our lives for. Keeping people out of school doesn't mean they aren't transmitting the virus elsewhere. There is no bullet-proof remedy for this. So you might as well educate people instead of wasting the time. Virtual learning is completely joke and frankly it sucks worse for the teachers. It's time to return to normal. The benefits outweigh the risks at this point.
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Letting children back into school is another wrinkle of this thing that has become the worst disaster of a US policy since the war in Vietnam.
We are all in this together and the liberals are just sitting around pointing fingers and casting blame. Meanwhile the overwhelming majority of both cases and deaths have been in Democratic-governed cities. Democrat governors lead the country in deaths by a mile. Talk about throwing stones in a glass house! Trump has done a great job building up testing capacity, providing ventilators, providing fiscal stimulus, and prodding the Fed to lower interest rates. He also marshaled private company resources and leaders to help the cause. Meanwhile Democrats sit around hating while their own cities are exploding in cases and literally burning to the ground.
In your current delusional state, Trader_ J, you wouldn't recognize science if it hit you on the head.
CDC 7/31/2020 Early Release: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6931e1.htm?s_cid=mm6931e1_w This investigation adds to the body of evidence demonstrating that children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection (1–3) and, contrary to early reports (5,6), might play an important role in transmission (7,8).
Did you even read the study? It was a SYMPTOMATIC TEENAGER who was the source of the spread. My post spoke to ASYMPTOMATIC youth under age 10. People lecturing other people on science when they have shortcomings in reading!
I have been looking for and have NOT found any study on children transmission.... CDC release an early report yesterday https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6931e1.htm?s_cid=mm6931e1_w These findings demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 spread efficiently in a youth-centric overnight setting, resulting in high attack rates among persons in all age groups, despite efforts by camp officials to implement most recommended strategies to prevent transmission. Asymptomatic infection was common and potentially contributed to undetected transmission, as has been previously reported (1–4). This investigation adds to the body of evidence demonstrating that children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection (1–3) and, contrary to early reports (5,6), might play an important role in transmission (7,8). The multiple measures adopted by the camp were not sufficient to prevent an outbreak in the context of substantial community transmission. Relatively large cohorts sleeping in the same cabin and engaging in regular singing and cheering likely contributed to transmission (9). Use of cloth masks, which has been shown to reduce the risk for infection (10), was not universal. An ongoing investigation will further characterize specific exposures associated with infection, illness course, and any secondary transmission to household members. Physical distancing and consistent and correct use of cloth masks should be emphasized as important strategies for mitigating transmission in congregate settings. We know kids get it, we know kids die from it, although at a much lower rate. Here are the risk in my head 1- Do children transmit the disease as much as adult, or even more? 2- Do children have long term impact? I don't think we have very good data on above, although we are starting to see more data. Also, the US will be unique when schools start to open here. Most places open school with low spread. Some area in the US will be opening school with major spread.
"Asymptomatic infection was common and potentially contributed to undetected transmission, as has been previously reported (1–4). This investigation adds to the body of evidence demonstrating that children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection (1–3) and, contrary to early reports (5,6), might play an important role in transmission (7,8)."
Asymptomatic infection is not the same as asymptomatic transmission. The study said there were 100 SYMPTOMATIC cases - that was obviously the source of the spread. Not the 36 who were asymptomatic. It's like people can't even read!
This is what the CDC said with the study: "Asymptomatic infection was common and potentially contributed to undetected transmission, as has been previously reported (1–4). This investigation adds to the body of evidence demonstrating that children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection (1–3) and, contrary to early reports (5,6), might play an important role in transmission (7,8)."
Congratulations must be in order. Republican leadership has done a tremendous job in all of these towns where cows outnumber people. Of the 50 largest cities, only 13 have Republican leadership. Top ten? 1. Top 20? 3. They have done a great job keeping the cows safe too. Trump has done a great job making it possible to only wait 12 hrs to get tested and getting the results after you're dead. Also providing ventilators to his boss. It also is a great feeling that all the economic decisions weren't taken advantage of by family, friends, and own self interest. What an exemplary leader for our nation. No other nations can laugh at us and they all envy our deaths.
