James Harden is gonna get screwed over again in MVP Voting

Well deserved to Russ, and the reason Russ wanted it so bad is definitely in some ways a retaliation to that snake Cupcake

 

Harden's third place votes
Andrew Sharp(Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Curry)
Jeff McDonald, San Antonio Express-News(Spurs) (Leonard-Westbrook-Harden-James-Curry)
Jerry Zgoda, Minneapolis Star-Tribune(Wolves) (Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Thomas)
Justin Verrier(Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Curry)
Kevin Harlan(Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Curry)
Marc Kestecher(Leonard-Westbrook-Harden-James-Thomas)
Michelle Beadle(Leonard-Westbrook-Harden-James-Thomas)
Sean Deveney(Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Thomas)
Tim Reynolds, Associated Press(Heat) (James-Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-Curry)
TJ Manotoc, ABC-CBN (Westbrook-James-Harden-Leonard-Thomas)

Spoiler

Fan Vote
Westbrook-Harden-Thomas-Leonard-James

ESPN/ABC
Brian Windhorst(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Antetokounmpo)
Calvin Watkins(Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-Thomas-James)
Doris Burke(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)
Doug Collins(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)
Hubie Brown(Westbrook-Harden-Thomas-Leonard-James)
JA Adande(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)
Jackie MacMullan(Harden-Leonard-Westbrook-James-Davis)
Jalen Rose(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Jon Barry(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)
Justin Verrier(Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Curry)
Kevin Arnovitz(Leonard-Harden-Westbrook-James-Curry)
Marc Kestecher(Leonard-Westbrook-Harden-James-Thomas)
Marc Spears(Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-Thomas-James)
Marc Stein(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)
Mark Jackson(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)
Michael Wilbon(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Michelle Beadle(Leonard-Westbrook-Harden-James-Thomas)
Mike Breen(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Rachel Nichols(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Curry)
Ramona Shelburne(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Royce Young(Westbrook-Harden-Curry-James-Leonard)
Sage Steele(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)
Zach Lowe(Leonard-Harden-Westbrook-James-Curry)

Turner Sports
Brent Barry(Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Curry)
Chris Webber(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
David Aldridge(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Durant)
Dennis Scott(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Durant)
Ernie Johnson(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Fran Blinebury(Leonard-Harden-Westbrook-James-Curry)
Howard Beck(Harden-Leonard-Westbrook-James-Curry)
Jared Greenberg(Harden-Leonard-Westbrook-Thomas-James)
John Schuhmann(Harden-Westbrook-James-Leonard-Curry)
Kevin Ding(Harden-James-Westbrook-Curry-Leonard)
Kevin Harlan(Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Curry)
Kristen Ledlow(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)
Lang Whitaker(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Matt Winer(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Reggie Miller(Westbrook-Harden-Leoard-James-Davis)
Ric Bucher(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Wall)
Sekou Smith(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)
Steve Aschburner(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)
Steve Smith(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-Thomas-James)
Bill Oram, Orange County Register(Lakers) (Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Thomas)

USA Today
Jeff Zillgitt(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Curry)
Sam Amick(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)

Sports Illustrated
Andrew Sharp(Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Curry)
Ben Golliver(Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Curry)
Lee Jenkins(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Wall)

The Ringer
Bill Simmons(Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Curry)
Kevin O'Connor(Harden-James-Westbrook-Leonard-Curry)

NBC Sports
Kurt Helin(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)

Fox Sports
Chris Broussard(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)

CBS Sports
Matt Moore(Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Wall)

Sirius XM
Justin Termine(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)

SB Nation
Paul Flannery(Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)

The Sporting News
Sean Deveney(Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Thomas)

Basketball Insiders
Steve Kyler(Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)


Canada
Doug Smith, The Toronto Star(Raptors) (Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Curry)
Michael Grange, Rogers Sportsnet(Raptors) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Antetokounmpo)
Ryan Wolstat, Toronto Sun(Raptors) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Antetokounmpo)

Arizona
Doug Haller, Arizona Republic(Suns) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)

California
Ailene Voisin , Sacramento Bee(Kings) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)
Jason Jones, Sacramento Bee(Kings) (Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)
Anthony Slater, Bay Area News Group(Warriors) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)
Bill Oram, Orange County Register(Lakers) (Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Mark Medina, LA Daily News(Lakers) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)

D.C.
J Michael Falgoust, CSN Washington(Wizards) (Leonard-Harden-Westbrook-Wall-DeRozan)

Florida
Manny Navarro, Sun-Sentinel(Heat) (Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)
Tim Reynolds, Associated Press(Heat) (James-Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-Curry)

Illinois
KC Johnson, Chicago Tribune(Bulls) (Westbrook-harden-James-Leonard-Antetokounmpo)
Vince Goodwill, CSN Chicago(Bulls) (Harden-Leonard-Westbrook-James-Antetokounmpo)

Indiana
Nate Taylor, Indianapolis Star(Pacers) (Leonard-Harden-Westbrook-James-Curry)

Massachusetts
Gary Washburn, Boston Globe(Celtics) (Westbrook-Harden-Thomas-Leonard-James)
Sherrod Blakely , CSN New England(Celtics) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-Thomas-James)

Michigan
Rod Beard, Detroit News(Pistons) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)

Milwaukee
Charles Gardner, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel(Bucks) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Antetokounmpo)

Minnesota
Jerry Zgoda, Minneapolis Star-Tribune(Wolves) (Westbrook-Leonard-Harden-James-Thomas)
Jon Krawczynski, Associated Press(Wolves) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Wall)

New York
Brian Lewis, New York Post(Nets) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)
Brian Mahoney, Associated Press(Knicks/Nets) (Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-Thomas-James)
Frank Isola, Sirius Radio/New York Daily News(Knicks) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Marc Berman, New York Post(Knicks) (Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Curry)

North Carolina
Richard Walker, Gaston Gazette(Hornets) (Harden-Westbrook-Curry-Thomas-Leonard)

Ohio
Joe Vardon, Cleveland.com(Cavs) (Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)

Oklahoma
Erik Horne, The Oklahoman(Thunder) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)

Oregon
Joe Freeman, The Oregonian(Blazers) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Antetokounmpo)

Pennsylvania
Keith Pompey, Philadelphia Inquirer(Sixers) (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)

Tennessee
Ron Tillery, Memphis Commercial-Appeal(Grizzlies) (Westbrook-Harden-James-Leonard-Thomas)

Texas
Eddie Sefko, Dallas Morning News(Mavs) (Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Jeff McDonald, San Antonio Express-News(Spurs) (Leonard-Westbrook-Harden-James-Curry)

Utah
Tony Jones, Salt Lake Tribune(Jazz) (Harden-James-Westbrook-Leonard-Curry)

International?/Other
Antoni Daimiel, Moviestar+ (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Thomas)
Davide Chinellato, LaGazetta Dello Sport (Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Curry)
Flavio Tranquillo, Sky Italia (Leonard-Harden-Westbrook-James-Curry)
Jacques Monclar, BEIN Sport (Westbrook-Harden-Thomas-Leonard-James)
Lisa Shen Yang, Tencent (Westbrook-Harden-Curry-Leonard-James)
Marcelo Nogueira, Ole (Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-Thomas-Curry)
Nira Khurana , Excelsior (Harden-Westbrook-Leonard-James-Thomas)
TJ Manotoc, ABC-CBN (Westbrook-James-Harden-Leonard-Thomas)
Weiping Zhang, CCTV (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)
Yoko Miyaji, Sports Graphic Number (Westbrook-Harden-Leonard-James-Curry)

 

Try 3rd best record in the nba. Harden was robbed

 

The Harden haters.

 

Again it makes absolutely no sense to have either Westbrook 1st or Leonard 1st and Harden anywhere but 2nd.

If your choice is Westbrook than winning means absolutely nothing in your criteria and Harden stomps everyone else in stats. If you vote Leonard 1st than winning was your first priority in which case Westbrook can not be your 2nd choice. Harden has arguably better numbers and a lot more wins.

It's clear there are a whole lot of disingenuous voters who were looking for any reason to not give this award to Harden. When the Westbrook momentum picked up steam with game winning shots against lottery teams, the group think mentality really came together and this thing was over.

It's a shame to see the kind of people that are given votes for this thing and to see the MVP turn in to a pure stats driven award. Bad precedent. Until it isn't when they need to change the criteria for the next player ESPN decides to put weight behind.

 

or the moneytakers (from Nike, inc.)

 

What we just saw today should end the Westbrook/Harden MVP debate with an exclamation mark.

A superstar player in KD decided to leave Westbrook.
A superstar player in CP3 decided to JOIN Harden.

 

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/07/31/nba-awards-james-harden-russell-westbrook-mvp-criteria-daryl-morey

You could argue for eliminating the awards altogether. I don’t really see a good way to do it that doesn’t have major issues. I like clean answers. If there’s not going to be a set criteria and there’s going to be issues with how it’s structured, for me it might be better to not have it.”

“We thought James was the MVP but there were a bunch of very good, deserving candidates,” Morey continued, before making an apparent reference to Westbrook’s triple-double achievement. “I didn’t like how a different MVP criteria was used this year, compared to the last 55 years, to fit more of a marketing slogan. People thought a different criteria for selecting the MVP this year was the way to go.”

“Given that the criteria seems to be shifting away from winning, I would guess that [adding Paul] probably doesn’t help anyone’s chances on our team,” Morey acknowledged. “That said, I don’t think anybody really cares [going forward]. James definitely cared and I think we all cared [about the 2017 MVP]. But we’ve moved on since the award isn’t focused on winning any more. Let’s just win and not worry about it.”​

 

shots fired

 

Hate this guy

 

It's true, but again the media attention with Morey..just comes across as a sore loser.

 

Morey is right. The media was inconsistent in their criteria. First year in recent history that winning wasn't a factor. Next year's winner will likely have an entirely new set of criteria that the media determines to be "most valuable". It's not a bad thing for Morey to think that's a bad thing.

 

I like it. acknowledge the fact that we all wanted Harden to win then makes sure you give the middle finger to the league.

I hope next season they actively say they don't care anymore.

what a joke.

 

Don't really care. Harden was definitely not playing like an MVP in the 2nd half of the season, and add to that he's pathetic closing game performance against the Spurs, I think it would have been more embarrassing had he won the award. In a way Harden gained a little bit more sympathy than he should have because he lost to WB.

 

The season can't come soon enough.... the new owner can't come soon enough

That Knicks player...well, I said nothing.

 

Morey ain't never lie.

 

I hope Rockets fans follow Morey's example and stop givzing a damn about individual awards going forward. Way too much CF bandwidth was consumed obsessing over it last year. Just win!

 

the amount of time I spent in this thread caping for Harden

 

It should have gone to Steph Curry or maybe Kawhi if winning is the sole criterion, not Harden.

 

I would say Harden still.