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Is it me or . .. Is Tucker Reaching Ryan like level of ducking shots?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Feb 22, 2019.

  1. iNoseBleedRed

    iNoseBleedRed Member

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    At this point I’d prefer Chris tucker
     
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  2. DatRocketFan

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    All these posters on here lamenting not trading tucker our rock for a one year rental of diva Butler. Four first round picks, Gordon and tucker for a one year rental is too expensive for my taste. Chemistry Is also important this isnt a video game where u can just cram people into a team and It just works.
     
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    „How you want to turn around our team coach”
    „Well we got James”
     
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  4. Denovo

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    Style of play? All Tucker does is sit in the corner. The only players affected by our style in terms of fatigue would be Harden, Paul And Capela.
     
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    Bro u clearly don’t see what pj does he’s defending the other teams BEST PLAYER. He sets hard screens, gets offensive boards. Doing that for 40 mins a night since November is tiring. That’s why PJ don’t got the legs late in games to hit his shots
     
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  6. RocketOrg

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    Nah, what’s ignorant is thinking a 34-year-old can play 34-5 minutes a night, and stubbornly sticking with a lineup that isn’t working. Faried is younger and has more energy, do you disagree? His energy is contagious. He’s laying great basketball right now. He doesn’t need to be a three-point shooter. He scores in a variety of other ways. For instance, he provides another pic in role player for Harden, which is his bread-and-butter with Capela.

    All Tucker does this occasionally hit a 3 offensively. His production and shooting percentage is way down, probably because he’s logging so many minutes. He’s too short to defend bigger players. All I know is that this lineup isn’t getting it done. Also, There might be nights when the coach has to adjust the lineup to defend against the personnel of another team.
     
  7. smoothie_king

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    Tucker best game this season was Lakers come back in january.

    That game tucker dunked on kuzma but remember who assisted on the tucker dunk? It was Austin rivers who assisted on the tucker dunk.

    Where is the bench play making? Most of the bench plays get made by assists from Paul.

    Tucker suffers with points due to the screens he is asked to set screens time and time again.

    Alot of times tucker is needed to gang rebound in order to address the night in and night out rebounding deficits.

    I'm sure gang rebounding is a major facet of the rockets game plan.
     
  8. napalm06

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    I noticed this too. It seems like sometimes he heaves the ball just to get rid of it. Getting rid of the hot potato, not actually lining up for a good shot.
     
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    I agree with others. I think the minutes are just too much for his type of defensive energy. Maybe if coach plays him half the minutes and splits his time with Faried we can have a fresh legged hustler out there at all times.
     
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    Yup .

    We had options to take the burden off of him but MDA chose to play PJ heavy minutes throughout this season .... even when it was clear he was slumping because of it .

    MDA doesn't believe in "tired legs"
     
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  11. Denovo

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    Tucker suffers with points because he’s not a scorer. He’s undersized, He can’t dribble, he’s unathletic, and he’s currently not knocking down open 3s.

    He has an extremely limited offensive skill set. Rebounding and Setting screens isn’t a factor in him scoring. Nor is the gameplan. He’s just not a scorer.
     
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    The rebounding disparity night in and night out equates to less possessions for the rockets forcing them to play conservatively.

    The lack of bench play makers limits the available sets that rockets can run whenever harden goes out. Our bigs don't fill the gaps in the mid range game which often leaves tucker in no man's land.

    The spread offense lacks a post presence and capaela not dominant enough late in games.

    1.The stuff that u saw LeBron doing against rockets with his big to big passes is completely absent.
    2. Rockets can't run the short box set that u often see Steve Adams and Paul George run on a consistent basis.

    The rockets hoping capaela plays up to his 80 million but we saw last playoffs where fizzed out late, and it shaping out to be a repeat but maybe worst, early round sweep
     
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    We sat Harden like 1 or 2 games last year... and he hit that late season shooting slump... MDA attributed it to 'too much rest'...lol
    dude is always pushing an agenda to justify running guys into the ground for the sake of his regular season offensive statistical glory... smh...
    "I've never won crap - but look I have the #1 or #2 highest offense rating... thats almost like winning!" lol
     
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    Seriously .

    MDA is so defensive about resting guys .

    Just recently he said something about "nothing showing in the data " or something like that .

    Well genius , pops has been doing it for years , GS does it , and many other teams around the NBA are commonly resting guys for "load management "

    I guess they are just doing it to be cool and fit in
     
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  15. Denovo

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    I agree. The personnel we have limits the current system we run as well as any other system we could potentially run.

    We have too many players that need to be spoon fed.

    I love Gerald but he doesn’t do anything but jack 3s.

    Even House was able to do attack the rim as well as shoot 3s. His game is more well rounded.

    Gordon tries to attack openings but he struggles finishing contested layups. And his shot is broken.

    Faried in his limited time at the 4 showed more versatility than Tucker. Particularly with the lob out of the PNR to Capela. (Similar to JSmith And Howard). But he’s not a good enough wing defender and I’m not convinced about his jumpshot.

    I expected Rivers to either provide solid playmaking or a scoring option off the bench but he’s provided neither. His 1 on 1 defense is great tho.

    Shumpert needs more time to get healthy and get acclimated. Hopefully he can be the defender we need and hit the 3 reliably.

    We need more well rounded players. We don’t even really have specialists. We don’t even have an elite shooter or an elite wing defender. We’re a top heavy team and it results in a very limited offense.
     
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    They have to be looking for gimmick sets to get buckets immediately when harden goes to the bench. Gimmick plays like the golden state down screens that Klay Thompson uses or the pin downs that Durant and Draymond Greene run.

    It's on cp3 to play make with the bigs like he did with clippers. The clippers saw Blake Griffin hitting those Kevin love and Joe Ingles iso three's. Hopefully far"weed" can develop shooting touch because team's zone up the rockets immediately when harden goes to bench.

    The best play I seen from far"weed" was a high post dribble drive after the Lakers denied cp3 from taking a downhill ball screen from far"weed". Far"weed' lowered his shoulder and lebroned his way in for two.
     
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  17. kjayp

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    yeh, i just hope we actually use Faried as a pf with the second unit - and not just a small ball center...
    I mentioned in another thread how my desire to see something like Nene/Faried/GG/Rivers/CP3 as a conventional set for the second unit with more feeding the post for high % buckets... and hopefully better rebounding and rim protection...
    Nene and Faried have only been on the floor together for 2 minutes so its not enough of a sample size to say anything... but that lineup had an ORTG of 160.0 and DRTG of 50.0 in those 2 mins... lol
    We need a backup conventional set for when the 3 ball aint falling... imo
     
  18. J Sizzle

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    Can’t keep starting him if he provides nothing offensively.
     
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  20. smoothie_king

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    The play making of tucker in the Lakers comeback saved his position in starting lineup IMO. Tucker is decoy. Tucker's dunk on the seven footer was epic back in January against Lakers.


    At some point the coach can't keep adjusting the line up or else why the hell even have training camp in September and the preseason in October.

    You never see rockets run the golden state three high set which I think they know they would get out played if they tried to mimic golden state.

    Training camp and preseason is when you establish the playbook.
     
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