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Fire Bill O'Brien

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DonnyMost, Sep 23, 2016.

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Should we fire Bill O'Brien?

  1. Yes

    76.0%
  2. No

    15.9%
  3. Abstain (for the moment)

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  1. bilaal14

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    Here is to hopin the idiot BOB doesnt run it up the gut with wack ass miller on every first down.
     
  2. deb4rockets

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    One thing is for sure, people have some really strong opinions on here. Lots of supporters, but the poll still shows an overwhelming vote against him. Maybe that will change if we win a Super Bowl. Who knows. Lots of love and lots of hate fuels the fire for this O'Brien firing debate. Whether you like him or not, Bill says he needs to learn to coach better, which is a good thing. I hope he does. Go Texans!!!!!
     
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  3. plates300

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    If the Texans do win the super bowl with O'Brien at the helm, it will be in spite of him being coach...I'm hoping that isn't the case. Go Texans!
     
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    SMH
     
  5. Nimo

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    I know it will never happen but...

     
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  6. Mr. Clutch

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    You make no sense. O'Brien picked Hoyer/Mallet over Fitzpatrick Keenum. Nobody wanted that except him.


    Blah blah blah more insults because you can't come up with any data to back yourself up. Congrats on being the new village idiot like BTG. Sorry, but the consensus is that O'Brien is a bad offensive coach, unfortunately for you.

    You watch the games? Wow, then you're too dumb to realize how he has mismanaged the QB position and the OL. You've repeatedly asked dumb questions that are easily answered by a GOOGLE search. And when people answer it you say it's a hot take.

    Bottom 10 offense 5 years in a row. He sucks as an offensive coach. There's simply no disputing it at this point.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Only way this happens is if McNair sells the team. But his offense combined with Crennel's defense would be amazing to watch.
     
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  8. Mr. Clutch

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    It's been 5 years of this but certain people (NICK) don't look at the data. They go strictly by the feels..

    What's even worse about this data is the dominant defense consistently puts the offense in position to score.

    The data is just pretty settled at this point. Is it possible O'Brien finally figures it out and builds a good offense? Sure, anything is possible now that he has a QB. But 5 years in it hasn't happened yet.
     
  9. Nick

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    And in the grand scheme of things, seeing who we have now, nobody cares about this but you.

    The reason why everybody thinks you're an idiot is because you would rather see the team fail currently with him to prove your point. You still don't realize what happens with coaching regimes once they develop a franchise QB that has success.... they go hand-in-hand. Kubiak's regime was tied to Matt Schaub. Capers was tied to David Carr. BOB is now tied to Watson. As he goes, the team goes, the coach keeps his job.

    You're the only one who's too dense to understand this. But I'm not going to bother trying to explain it to you.

    At least there's enough of your drivel throughout this thread for others to know who you really are. Not even sure why you watch the team/coach you hate so much. Others have the ability to think rationally/logically when seeing why he's still here, and give credit to the fact that he has got this team on a tremendous winning streak in what could have been a lost season.
     
  10. Nick

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    Tremendous specious reasoning and analysis here... Mr. Clutch, everybody, the one who looks at 5 years of inconsequential data without a franchise QB, ignores the current wins/development with the franchise QB, yet says "anything is possible".
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    You are way overplaying this "tied to the QB" crap. Teams change coaches all the time regardless of QB, there are multiple examples of this, but you won't look at the data.

    Drafting a rookie QB shouldn't shield a bad offensive coach from losing his job. In fact, why keep a head coach who actively puts Watson in physical danger?

    Also something you won't answer: is it ok for the offensive coach to build a bottom 10 offense every year?
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Here we have it folks. The data doesn't matter. Give O'Brien a free pass.

    NickTheGreat, do you honestly believe a good offensive coach can't build at least a top 20 offense over half a decade?

    Seriously?

    And enough with the QB excuse. O'Brien chose those guys! He wanted Mallet.
     
  13. Nick

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    Not a free pass. A renewed chance due to the development/ascendance of Watson. Its really that simple.

    Those guys sucked, sucked everywhere. Hey, they sucked less here... but who cares? Does it mean anything at this moment? If you're literally that fixated on this standpoint, why even get excited about Watson at all? You're stuck in 2015, while the rest of us are continuing to focus on the team that currently plays.

    If you don't understand how this puts you a notch lower than any other frequent poster here, you're literally too far into the forrest to see the trees.
     
  14. Nick

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    No, they don't... not when the young QB is successful. Name an example of a young QB who had a stellar debut, and the team decided to switch coaches... also, tell me how that QB eventually did?

    He was never going to lose his job after Watson developed last year... in fact, he got an extension because of it (about 99% of that attributed to him being right about Watson, and Watson defending him).

    But yeah, lets keep rehashing stuff from 2015... why even stop there, lets discuss how horrible the Jason Babin trade was. Or how idiotic it was to start a rookie secondary in 2010...
     
  15. Agent94

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    How is that Jared Goff - Jeff Fischer team doing? Mitch Trubisky - John Fox? Andy Reid - Alex Smith? So I also don't understand. Please explain.
     
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  16. Nick

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    Did you read what I said?

    How many of those QB's qwew successful in their debut? Name one successful QB after their debut years that had to go through a regime change. We've already discussed how bad Goff was. Same with Trubisky. Those franchises would have killed for those QB's to have had a debut season like Watson... and there's a 0% chance they make a coaching change if they had succeeded.

    Also, Alex Smith? Really? Do you not know his history and who his coach was at his debut? If anything, he's an example of a coaching staff moving on from a QB despite the QB not sucking... and ironically, Andy Reid did the same thing that Harbuagh did.
     
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    Glanville-Moon?
     
  18. Nick

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    Its hilarious that this franchise was starving for a QB for years... finally has one that has shown continued success, promise, and development.... and you guys want to try and do everything possible to stifle that.

    I'm all for Watson dictating who his coach is, what he wants in a system, and the team goes with that. If he ends up wanting them to get his old college coach, go get him. If he and BOB have a falling out, BOB will be gone.

    If you want BOB gone, you might as well root for Watson to fail... which would be really ridiculous for "fans", but can't say the motley crew in here is all that surprising.
     
  19. Nick

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    Moon wasn't a true rookie... far from it. Had already developed in Canada, and thanks to racist old white guys, had to play there for 5 years.

    Glanville wasn't even the head coach when Moon made his debut here.
     
  20. DatRocketFan

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    Cant wait more material for us to either praise or sht on bob this game.
     

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