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Facebook leaves no doubt: It's the right wing's social network now - Part Two

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Deckard, Oct 31, 2019.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
     
  2. jo mama

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    everyone has at least one trump supporting uncle who constantly posts fake news and memes.

    its ironic b/c the ones who whine most about the dishonest fake news are the ones that are most likely to post dishonest fake news on social media. and the thing is that most of these people dont care that they are putting out lies and B.S. memes. my trump supporting uncle posts more lies and fake news than all my other facebook friends combined and ill actually post factual info that debunks them. but he doesnt care...he keeps repeating the lies.

    but is it facebooks responsibility to police that stuff or is it on us to not be so stupid?

    heres one my trump supporting uncle recently posted...its demonstrably false and they even spelled guatemala wrong, but it doesnt matter. he believes this is real. does facebook have a responsibility to prevent the spread of misinformation or again, is it on us to not be so stupid?

    these people think the MSM is all biased, partisan and liars...but they will eat up any random memes like this from some random person on facebook (who is actually probably a russian troll account).

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    What you like is largely based on branding, you just don't realize it because that's how good branding works.
     
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    This.

    The irony is these facebooks warriors are just useful idiots, much like the tea party who was corporate funded.
     
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    and it's Facebook that posts a "This may be fake news" warning right below many of those posts.
     
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    You would have thought the Dune Sea would have stopped the migrants, but then Mexican President Lopez-Obrador el Hutt took matters into his own hands:
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    I don't buy clothes much. If i need a nice shirt i go to Ross. They carry a lot of brands. Whatever catches my eye is what i probably purchase. Same with anything i wear

    Branding affected me when i was younger in trying to be hip. I do try to avoid cheaper looking clothes.

    At some point in my life i stopped buying expensive sneakers but i have started trying to keep nice sneakers again. I do usually look at Nike.

    I not trying to claim to be of stronger mind. Clothes i buy i want to be comfortable and i want to look nice to others

    Other than clothes what would i buy cause of branding?

    When you get into higher cost items its the features and what's affordable. And that's for mostly everyone
     
  8. Commodore

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    That Facebook should empower themselves as arbiters of truth for their users.

    Personally I would be horrified if asked to decide what speech others can see.

    Long term this is all moot, platforms will be developed that are decentralized and uncensorable. The left won't have central authorities like Facebook or the government to appeal to to censor speech they don't like.
     
  9. jo mama

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    facebook allows fake news b/c thats what pays the bills. we, as users, are not the customers...we are the product.

    if their paying customers had a problem with what they were doing then facebook would correct their behavior.

    and if the lies didnt work on our uncles on facebook then they wouldnt push them...so in the end its ultimately on us. facebook is a private business and i dont really see it as a free speech issue. if they wanted to restrict certain things on their site that should be their prerogative to do so.
     
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    The very nature of branding isn't to convince you to make logical choices. It's about leveraging human psychology and the weaknesses there in. The fact that you avoid cheaper looking clothes (most of us do including myself) is a testament to the power of fashion, culture, and yes branding. You go to Ross because it has built trust with you as a source for nice shirts. There's nothing wrong with any of this and doesn't reflect how strong someone's mind is or how weak it is.

    The point is that these ads aren't designed to change your mind in one instance. You say nothing is going to make you buy into something you don't want, but that's not the purpose of these ads. It's to play off of what you want in very specific and insidious ways. The ads use FB's incredible targeting engine to develop psychological profiles of people - an understanding of what they want, and use that manipulate them. It may not have worked on you or maybe it did have an impact, you simply don't know when or where you were exposed to the information as it's spread isn't just limited to FB. That's the nature of changing people's attitudes about something - you never want them to realize you are doing it.
     
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    I go to Ross because it has cheap nuce clothes. Do you disagree that Riss has cheap nice clothes? Yes it markets itself that way but there is nothing insidious. Its information. Me wanting cheap and nice isnt cause of branding, its cause i live in a society where we want to look nice

    As far as FB is concerned i scroll right through ads. Im on it all the time and can honestly say ive never bought anything ive seen advertised on Facebook
     
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    I hope that's the case, but there are already platforms like it that exist. They're as popular and scalable as blockchain right now. Monetization is another thing in its way...

    I agreeee Russ has cheep noice clothes.

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    I am just saying your relationship to Ross goes beyond the clothes it carries.

    As for FB, you have bought things you have seen advertised on FB. Everyone has. That doesn't mean the ad made you go buy it though. In any case, that wasn't my point.
     
  14. Commodore

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    look up the lightning network
     
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    I have a relationship with Ross because im satisfied shopping there
     
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