ESPN caught spreading lies about James Harden's record breaking 2016/2017 Season

The only important thing to me here is how did you get 2182 points from assists. I haven't seen that anywhere. Curious as to where you saw it.

 

Harden had 907 assists on the season...of those 907, 368 of them led to 3 pointers

(907x2)+368=2,182 points created off assists

Harden scored 2,356 points, so add that to 2,182 points he created off assists and u get 4,538 points produced which means he missed the record by 1 point

 

archibald's didn't account for 3s too. but you accounted the 3s right?

 

there was no 3 point line back then...

the NBA didn't have a 3 point line until 1979...Archibald's record is from 1973...

all of his assists generated 2 pointers

 

were there and 1's back then? were they recorded and simply not included in his record?

 

I'm only curious is this is true, since it would imply and-1's scored off assists would count towards total points created, but simple fouls that weren't and-1's but where the player Harden (or anyone) passes to got fouled do not.

In any case, this and other items like this involved with counting stats, and triple doubles, etc. are why advanced stats are used by the professionals. Even the # of total points created, even including all free throws made, doesn't factor in all great passes made to open players, all great initialization of the offense, etc.

Which is why the whole triple double thing was dumb from the get go.

For example, the absolute only reason I care about my PG getting rebounds, in general, would be for the overall net rating of the team when he does so vs. when he doesn't as much. Russ' rebounds were mostly uncontested. The Thunders strength was in great "big" bigs who could board. Did Russ getting those allow him to get on the break faster? Did it negatively impact the play or effort of his bigs? Etc.

On that thread of thought, its another reason why I think someone like KD has become overrated and Curry, unbelievably, underrated. Why is KD consistently ranked ahead of Curry in top x player rankings? Steph is the engine of that team, has been for three years, and continued to be for this year, where both in the regular season, playoffs and Finals, the Warriors net rating was all about whether Curry was on/off the court. And its a bit of revisionist history that the Warriors "had" to pick up KD to beat the Cavs. They were on their way to a 4-1 win last year before **** hit the fan with Draymond and Bogut... and Steph was injured. Which is also why the Warriors almost/should have lost to the Thunder. Playoff Warriors in 2016 were not close to regular season Warriors because of DMo's sweat. /randomthoughts

 

He is OPs troll account

 

yeah, there were and-1's back then, and they were not included in his record

Archibald's record is 4,539 points produced

he had 910 assists and scored 2719 points

2719+(910x2)=4,539 points produced

there were no and-1's included in his record just like it's not included for Harden and that's why he ended up with 4,538 points produced and Archibald has the record of 4,539...both of those numbers would be higher if they included and-1's

 

wouldn't even surprise me

 

I'd put my nut on it

 

Reeko laying down the facts

Ignore OP RocketsLies and his troll account dafattest

 

Why are and 1's not counted? Are they not points produced.

If you know assisted points for both Archibald and Harden, what is the comparative numbers for each including and1s.

 

They didn't track that data.

Who knows what he actually would have produced had they tracked it. But since they didn't, to give credit to hardens points created total and not archibaldswould be disingenuous.

We can track hardens and 1s, and it would trump archibald but that would be omitting data from tinys total.

Thus it makes much more sense to omit hardens and 1s to create a level baseline comparison. Harden is already at an advantage for having the 3 pt line.

I am a huge huge harden fan and supporter. But it's archibalds record. He deserves the respect he earned to hold the title of most points created. Harden came up short and is 2nd.

It was an amazing season by harden, enjoy it's history, but don't try and make it something it wasn't.

 

sure it does. media conspiracy.

 

well, the good news is that it was reported in another thread that Harden has promised to stay a Rocket forever. Truly making him a . . . Rocket Man.

 

We don't know how many total points Archibald scored? Or is it and1s on assisted baskets.

 

we know how many total points he scored, but the made free throw off an and-1 that he assisted is not included in Archibald's record...it's not included in Harden's 4,538 points created either

 

Don't forget the 4's

Just kidding

 

Wtf these losers got to lose by lying on Harden? The media is evil as h3ll