El Salvador and Guatemala Currently Have the Highest Murder Rates in the World

How is that possible given that El Salvador only has 5.8 guns per 100 people? There's 88 countries (including just about every western nation) that have more guns per 100 people than El Salvador, how can they have the worst murder rate in the world? I was told that the number of guns in a country is what determines the murder rate, is that not true?

It's almost like the desire to commit murder is what matters and not how many guns are in a country.

 

Guatemala has 13.1 guns per 100 people....the same as Australia, considerably less than Sweeden, Finland, Canada, France, or Germany. I'm thinking the ridiculously high murder rate has less to do with access to guns and more to do with a desire to kill people among Guatemalans.

 

Yeah, those central and south American countries swap spots on a year to year basis, but they are usually at or near the top despite having fairly few guns compared to western nations. That was my point.

 

The situation on the border is largely due to DACA, in addition to drugs. Look at Honduras: prior to DACA it was not a significant source of pending asylum applications. After DACA? That is a different story.

And if you think it is the rising murder rate in Honduras that is driving people to seek asylum here, think again: the murder rate in Honduras has been dropping since 2011.

Also, Mexico's murder rate for May 2018?

27.5 per 100,000.

I can't wait till we have 2 million pending asylum applications from Mexico, but it looks like we are headed there.

 

DACA only applies to people who were here before 2007. DACA doesn't help any new people entering the country. Besides, DACA and asylum status are completely separate tracks anyway.

 

I see you and @fchowd0311 like playing the same game. DACA is a motivating factor.

 

Yet....DACA didn't help anyone before Obama started it in 2012, why not break in now and wait for the next round of amnesty?

 

Why? People are like "hey, they let kids who came into the country back in 2007 have a chance to stay there, so now I'm going to flee the violence in my country! But before DACA, I'd just stick it out here!" ? That's the idea?

You don't get to just make up motivations with no evidence or logic and claim it as fact. Well, you can - it just re-emphasizes that you don't know anything of the topics you discuss.

 

They aren't feeling violence for the most part, most are economic migrants....you know, just like the mother of the little girl that Time Magazine made the face of asylum seekers being separated from their families at the border that ended up being completely fake news as the mother turned out to be nothing more than an economic migrant that wasn't separated from her child that she kidnapped from the father because she fraudulently claimed asylum.

 

Get the gangs, cartel, and corruption under control in Central America is the key to a lot of problem.

 

Don't expect the village idiot to understand that

 

DACA did not cause the situation on the border.

 

You have about as much of a chance of convincing him as you are in CO2 is causing global warming

 

It certainly is one of the main causes of the unaccompanied minor problems, the reason they are going is the hope of getting the DACA treatment one day.