"Deconstruction of the Administrative State" Steve Bannon

OP, feel free to list some regulations you are looking forward to scrapping. Bet you can't name ten.

 

Yes, it's marketing speak nonsense.

 

Basically the Repugs are willing to return to folks dying in the streets of hunger and sickness if that is what it takes to give more tax breaks to their funders.

 

That's a bit extreme, but absolutely some are willing to go toward that path. The sad part is it impact them as much as other. They just might not realize it until it hit them right in the face. Well, maybe still not then for some.

 

Republicans only care about the unborn fetus.

Once the child is born it is just a burden on the system unless the parents are rich.

Poor kids can be sick and don't need an education.

 

The idea that government is always bad is a thought that has perpetuated by the rich to maintain their dominance over the poor .

Can you think of one industry that does not have government regulation involved ? The only one I can really think of is nutritional supplements .

Water , food , energy , transport , law ... All of these markets are necessary to regulate in order to PREVENT harm and protect consumers . An argument can be made that there are too many rules and that hurts producers which in turn reduces total surplus .... Sure I buy it . But , show me if there ever was a market that worked in perfect competition . I'll give you a hint , there is no such thing. It's a theoretical ideal , not a real world occurance .

 

Very interesting person to bring up in a thread about the current President wanting to gut clean air, clean water, federal land use and other environmental regulations.

 

Not to mention a man who was tough as he was erudite and a true populist, conservationist, veteran--unlike the Cheeto-in-chief.

 

the administrative state is the part of government that runs your life outside of the democratic process

people that maintain power no matter who gets elected

in the administrative state, laws that would normally be voted on are replaced by edicts, decrees, rules, guidelines, regulations

it needs to be demolished

 

Sounds like a bunch of hooey.

 

You fail right from the start when you say "people here don't realize," because 1) you don't know the people here, 2) you don't know what they realize. So when you start off this way, people don't trust anything that follows.

 

He's a sovereign citizen bro, allodial and what not.

 

Like our judicial system tasked with determining the constitutionality and legality? Those folks just get in the way and those elected should have no resistance.

 

hell yes, MAGA!

 

I was at an industrial conference on energy recently in Trump country. There was a lot of talk about rolling back environmental regulation and saving coal. What was weird is how they'd cite the fact that we've made so much progress in cleaning up our water and air in the past couple of decades as proof that we don't need all these regulations. As if it wasn't the environmental regulations in the first place that drove the improvement. [/coolstorybro]

The administrative part of the government absolutely does depend on who gets elected. Agencies have staff who can stay consistent through administrations, but the top layer of every agency is a political cadre chosen by the new White House. That layer than makes changes as they need to the lower layers and they dictate the policy and direction of the agency. Did you not just witness with the rest of us the big turnover? All those people leaving the Department of Justice? You know FERC only has 2 of 5 commissioners in place now and can't even get a quorum until Trump appoints someone because the former chairman quit after getting demoted.

Agencies make all these regulations because either the legislature tells them to or because the courts tell them to. They don't have the time or the expertise to do that themselves. But, at any time, a court or a legislature can tell them they need to change their regulations and they'll change them. I don't know why you have this idea that they are immune to democracy.

 

This is why the argument that Trumpanzees are stupid holds so much weight. They have zero concept of the America that would exist if not for centuries worth of regulations put in place to protect consumers, employees, and citizens from rampant capitalism. These are the idiots that think a society without mandated family leave and universal health care constitutes a nanny state.

 

Another aspect people don't realize is that these regulations come about because of litigation; that is enough people were being affected adversely by an issue that the government had to step in. My parents are dealing with flooding due to a new neighborhood being built for example on a local level of the things that come up when you have people and businesses coexisting in together quarters.

I prefer "re-balancing" over "deconstructing".