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CNN's Jim Acosta has press pass suspended by White House

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  1. NewRoxFan

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    LOL... have to try to spin this into a win...

     
  2. Commodore

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    absolutely absurd ruling
     
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    Of course its absurd. A trump appointed judge, knowing he couldn't take a firmer stance against trump. You think any judge wants to be known as the one that enabled any president to pick and choose who gets to cover them in press conferences?

    And adding to this absurdity... this president, this white house and press secretary claiming to set a "decorum standard"? I bet even the fox news people are laughing at that...
     
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    Who chooses if not our elected leadership?
     
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    "There must be decorum at the White House."

    HAHAHA
     
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    You’re a dumbass
     
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    "Leadership"?

    If a Democratic President had pulled this on a FOX News reporter, that network would be shrieking, SHRIEKING, about how only banana republics and Putins pull this kind of thing. Hannity would be calling for an impeachment (rather than enabling the White House). And you'd be singing a different tune, too.
     
  10. Commodore

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    this is basic physics, the limits of time and space compel a decision must be made as to who is allowed to attend, so who decides? We the people can replace Trump if we disagree with his decision.

    If ten thousand reporters want a press pass, what makes Acosta legally entitled to one over them?

    Acosta is an unprofessional preening clown, he consumes time and space that would be better used by someone else. But even if he wasn't, it's not for an unelected judge to decide.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    What questiom specifically did you have a problem with?

    Can he not ask if a historic magnitude of troop movement was done from political motivation rather than national security interests?
     
  12. MojoMan

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    The answer is just establishing and clarifying the decorum standards for press room behavior. In fact, this has really has needed to be done for some time now and really should not be that hard to do. It would have been controversial if the Trump Administration did this unilaterally, but now they can impose these standards under the requirement (cover) of a court order.

    'Kelly signaled during Wednesday’s hearing that he might try to find a compromise, asking both parties if there was a less-restrictive way that the White House could have reprimanded Acosta, perhaps by letting him keep his pass while prohibiting him from press conferences.

    Boutrous said that was a possibility.'

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court...in-cnn-dispute

    So CNN's lawyer Boutrous agrees that allowing Acosta to keep his 'Press pass' while banning him from press conferences and such would be acceptable.

    Meanwhile, the establishment of tighter standards around acceptable press behavior and decorum in the press briefings looks to be a very acceptable way to stop this bad behavior by reporters going forward, including by raging a-holes like Jim Acosta.

    This appears to be a problem that is easily resolvable, although it will likely result in much more rigid procedures by reporters in the press room, which they are not going to like.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    From your perspective why is a reporter a raging ahole for not asking only politically convenient questions?

    Of your problem is reporters pushing to ask follow.up qhsstio, why do.ypu suddenly only care during the Trump presidency?

    Please be specific in what questions Acosta asks that makes him an *******.
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    Again, spin. The judge indicated his belief that CNN (and Acosta) would prevail in the overall case should it happen (suspect trump white house will pull out before that happens). The "rules of decorum" is simply the trump attempt to make some type, any type of win out of this.

    And the lunacy of trump and his people determining "acceptable" behavior. The guy that calls the media "the enemy of the people", claims a reporters question is "racist", calls other reporters questions "stupid", said another reporter asks "a lot of stupid questions", called another reporter a "loser", insults other reporters,... he is the one defining "acceptable" behavior and decorum. Laughable.
     
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    First amendment for Nazis, no first amendment for reporters.

    - MAGAMan's current Constitutional position
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    The Trump media proccess.

    1. President does something absurd.
    2. Media questions his absurd behavior/decision
    3. President insults and acts like a toddler to the question.
    4. MAGA acolytes either trolling or genuinely enveloped in the cult of personality ask why the media lacks decorum towards Trump .
     
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    As you know very well, Acosta was not asking questions. He was, as he himself described, "challenging" the president. That is not acceptable during a press conference. What reporters are allowed to do is ask questions, and that is ALL they should be doing.

    For those who are actually asking questions, the standard is that each one may ask one question. If there is a provision for a follow up question, then they all need to be able to ask one. One question, not three or four questions packaged as one. One follow up question (it that is allowed), not multiple questions packaged as one.

    To be fair, Trump routinely does a terrible job of adhering to clear rules in these conferences. His practice of answering these people after they scream for a good while after completing their question and answer just encourages more of this behavior. So for that Trump needs to share responsibility and he needs to stop doing that. Sarah Sanders does some of that too.

    From now on, their need to be rigid rules that are enforced without deviation. It will make for much better press briefings and press conferences. Then if someone steps outside the lines, they can be suspended from the press briefings or whatever. If they want to complain about that they can, but if they violated the rules, the answer will be to not do it again, or they will perhaps be banned permanently.

    I like where this seems to be going. They have needed to establish these rules for some time now and many people have wondered why they have not done it. But now that they will have a court order to back them up, this will surely get done. It is about time.
     
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  19. fchowd0311

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    So Trump is the first president to answer follow up questions from shouting reporters. He's too nice. That's his problem .

    You playing some sort of shtick here? I genuinely find it hard to believe that that someone who can type coherent sentences actually believes this.

    Reporters on these press conferences since the beginning of press conferences often summarize a premise then ask a question in order for that qieaques to have proper context.

    So what specific questions are he asking that bother you? What do you mean by "challenging"? As in asking questions that aren't politically beneficial to Trump?
     
  20. MojoMan

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    Well, now we know what you think.
     

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