I never once thought that Petty had accuracy problems at Baylor. He was throwing darts in the bowl game. For the ones asking about Petty v Savage, I would take Petty over Savage all day long. All i was trying to say was that if Petty ends up with a mid to late round grade, we should stay away.
I watched every one of Petty's games over the last 2 seasons....I don't see accuracy as the drawback. In fact, I've seen him make passes on fly patterns where guys are well covered and he puts it right where it needs to be deep down the field. Having said that, I think he's a 3rd round QB. I think he's better than Tom Savage...but I don't have a ton of confidence in him being a difference maker for a team.
Mike Mayock's position rankings for 2015 NFL Draft By Mike Mayock NFL Media draft analyst Published: Feb. 11, 2015 at 05:50 p.m. Updated: Feb. 11, 2015 at 06:12 p.m. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-mayocks-position-rankings-for-2015-nfl-draft Quarterback 1. Jameis Winston, Florida State 2. Marcus Mariota, Oregon 3. Bryce Petty, Baylor 4. Brett Hundley, UCLA 5. Garrett Grayson, Colorado State Ranked 3 but the evaluation is he needs a year on the bench. But I think Lance wrote it: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/bryce-petty?id=2552369
Yeah, the scouting reports won't necessarily match the mocks. The mocks will change but the report won't. Still. Outside of the mocks, they actually have Petty graded 5th behind Hundley and Grayson. And then there's this: Ouch. Davis played well this season, but that's probably not the type of comparison you're looking for. Hundley got Jason Campbell (Mariota: Kaepernick, Winston: Eli Manning).
The race is on for No. 3, as in who will be the third quarterback selected in the NFL draft after Florida State’s Jameis Winston and Oregon’s Marcus Mariota. There is disagreement at the top on Winston/Mariota and there’s also no consensus for No. 3. But Baylor’s Bryce Petty had a nice performance the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. “Bryce Petty had a great week,” said Todd McShay, an ESPN draft analyst. “I saw some improvement (with Petty) which is promising, but he’s got a huge jump to make.” The knock on Petty is that he flourished in a up-tempo spread, an offense that isn’t found much in the NFL, except in two-minute, hurry-up drills. McShay believes the depth in the quarterback draft class “is terrible after the first two choices.” However, NFL.com analyst Mike Mayock said last week that Petty and UCLA’s Brent Hundley have second-round grades. Petty’s on-campus pro day in Waco is March 18. The draft starts April 30. http://collegesports.blog.statesman.com/2015/02/23/nfl-analyst-bryce-petty-had-great-week-at-combine/
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Mark Brunell on SportsCenter: "I thought Bryce Petty was the best thrower out of all the QB's at the combine." <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Baylor?src=hash">#Baylor</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash">#NFL</a></p>— Nick Canizales (@NickCanizales) <a href="https://twitter.com/NickCanizales/status/570259613221658624">February 24, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bryce Petty impressed at the 2015 NFL Combine, recording several top performances. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NextLevelBU?src=hash">#NextLevelBU</a> <a href="http://t.co/qwJ3xysRGz">pic.twitter.com/qwJ3xysRGz</a></p>— Baylor Football (@BUFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/BUFootball/status/569618015358054400">February 22, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>IMO, Bryce Petty has the longest and most successful NFL career of all top prospects. Gritty leader with deep ball capabilities <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash">#NFLCombine</a></p>— Ben Leber (@nacholeber) <a href="https://twitter.com/nacholeber/status/568498527300689920">February 19, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Petty just isn't going to happen. He throws a legit ball and it is effortless, but he doesn't have accuracy. He can't make progressive reads and find receivers 2, 3, and 4. He's a gun and run just like RG3 and Manziel were. His system, just like Mariota's does not develop QBs well at all. I give Mariota the benefit of doubt only because he does make better reads and has shown better accuracy throughout his career. Both are going to have a difficult time in the NFL at first. Winston is the clear cut #1 QB this draft, and that's a tad scary considering all his baggage.
When you say he "can't" are you saying he won't grow into an NFL system from a College spread system? How would you know? And watching almost all of his Baylor games I've never had the impression he was 'inaccurate' throwing deep, because he sure threw a lot of long touchdown passes. The reason I keep posting in this thread is the fact that I saw what looked like to be a good NFL quarterback that I would like to see on my NFL team. I haven't ever seen Savage actually play. I saw Mallet some back in college but he didn't make the same impression on me.
Show me tangible proof that he has accuracy problems. Go back and watch his last game of his career against a legit defense. He tore them up while throwing deep bombs all over the place. But let's get back to the mini debate that we were having. Is he a better prospect than Savage? Does he have more upside than Savage? Hell yes. If you can get him in the third, he's a steal but I think he's worth a second. Savage can be cut like our million other draft busts.
1. I don't get the accuracy issues. I have reservations about Petty, but it's not on accuracy. His accuracy on the deep ball was super impressive, frankly. 2. I don't get at all the comparison to Manziel or RG3. Not even a little bit. He is a drastically different QB than those guys...he certainly doesn't have their speed to rely on. He's far more of a pocket passer than either of them.
My premise was that there was no point at looking at him if he ended up getting a mid round grade. It looks like that's not the case here. Guys like Mayock are impressed and giving him a second round grade. You make it happen.
It's not necessarily about the style of player as it is the system they ran in college. And players coming out of spread systems in college typically struggle in the pros, or at least have a larger hurdle to jump than those who ran pro style offenses in college. A lot of that is simply reading defenses. It's not that it can't be overcome, but they're 3-4 years behind some other college QBs in that regard, and it can be hard to make up the ground. They probably have to have a lot of physical talent to make up for their inexperience on the mental side of the game, to buy time until they can close that gap.
Yeah his perceived accuracy issues this past season were probably related to the broken bones in his spine. Scouts would be better served looking at 2013 film on him.
John McClain retweeted PDS @PatDStat 13h13 hours ago One former NFL scout says Bill O’Brien “really likes” Bryce Petty. Listen here. http://hou.scout.com/story/1522525-are-the-texans-high-on-bryce-petty?s=116
Shocked at Pancakes doing free PR for a Baylor guy. Last thing Petty should want is McClain taking him up as his cause célèbre, ala Shock Linwood. Kiss of Death.
I heard this opinion given by Steve Logan on a local EPSN radio show. Logan looked at Petty's film and said he has a strong arm but will have an accuracy issue in the NFL (vis-a-vis college). Logan also said that accuracy is not something you can coach up; you either have it or you do not.
