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Browns fire Sashi Brown

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by J.R., Dec 7, 2017.

  1. J.R.

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    The Cleveland Browns fired executive vice president Sashi Brown, the man who headed Cleveland's personnel department the past two years, league sources told ESPN.

    Head coach Hue Jackson will remain on the job and the expectation is that he will return for the 2018 season, though whoever Cleveland hires as its new general manager also will have a say.

    But for now, ownership plans to retain Jackson, as ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported last month.

    The Browns declined comment at this time.

    Cleveland immediately will begin its official search for a new general manager, its ninth general manager since the franchise returned to its city in 1999, though it quietly has been inquiring about others around the league for weeks now, per sources.

    Brown will leave a Cleveland team that traded away the picks that became Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson, but also an organization that has stockpiled picks for future drafts and created more salary-cap space than any team in the league.

    This team actually is well positioned for future years, many NFL executives have noted recently. Whoever takes over inherits some of the riches that Brown helped build.

    The Browns have six extra picks in April's draft -- an extra first-, two extra second-round picks, an extra fourth-round pick, an extra fifth-round pick. Right now, the Browns also have $59.25 million cap space this year that they can roll over into next year, when they already are scheduled to have another $38.6 million of room, giving them almost $100 million in salary cap space.

    Browns owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam are expected to interview GM candidates as early as this week, per sources, though they also already could have spoken with former NFL general managers Dave Gettleman, John Dorsey and Scot McCloughan without any permission or any restrictions.

    Today's shakeup continues a run that has made Cleveland the NFL's most unstable franchise. Since returning to Cleveland, the Browns had had eight different general managers -- Brown, Ray Farmer, Michael Lombardi, Tom Heckert, George Kokinis, Phil Savage, Butch Davis and Dwight Clark. It also has employed longtime executives Paul DePodesta, Joe Banner, Mike Holmgren and Mike Keenan.

    The Browns also have had nine head coaches since 1999, tied for 4th-most in the NFL. The Bills, Dolphins and Raiders have all had 10. But Jackson, at least for the time being, is staying on.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21699936/cleveland-browns-fire-personnel-czar-sashi-brown
     
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    Why hire him if you weren't in it for the long haul? You knew what his approach was gonna be
     
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    Because you didn't expect him to send QB's like Wentz and Watson packing.
     
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    Send them packing? They were never on the team

    And again, they new his approach when they hired him. Reminds me of Sam Hinkie
     
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    Because he traded them. Teams made trades to specifically move up and get those QB's.

    Passing on franchise QB's is not a part of any football GM's approach. That's the key player to obtain in this league.
     
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    Hindsight is 20/20. He traded assets for time. His drafts so far have produced a lot of useful players and the Browns are set up to load up in the next 2 years.

    Incredibly short-sighted by the Browns. Hue Jackson is a terrible, terrible personnel coach. To give him any say over personnel is moronic. This guy once mortgaged his team's future for 8 games out of a rusty Carson Palmer.
     
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    the fact that they're giving jackson the keys to the car so he can buy the groceries and burn the dinner tells me he really wanted texans Holy phenom, Watson. those conversations our dear watson alluded to did happen. I don't like any coach having all that power unless he's won a superbowl and has uggs#12 for the next 20 years.
     
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    GMs aren't gonna get the benefit of hindsight when passing on multiple franchise QBs. He had the chance to get the most important position twice and gave it away. Philly and Houston wouldn't trade the QBs for those picks back.

    And didn't he hire the coach?
     
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    Huh? Giving Hue Jacksoon the keys? Dude, Hue is on notice now that he better get wins from jump next season as another 0 and whatever start halftway through the season will probably get him fired. A sub.500 season will probably get him fired. If he doesnt mesh with Dorsey, he'll get fired.
    He isn't getting keys to anything.
     
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    The Browns were open about making no effort to compete these first 2 years. It was always gonna be a multiple year plan.

    They were punting entirely, and not even looking to make a major investment in a QB. I'm sure ownership knew exactly what the plan was, but they got cold feet. I imagine they will tear it down again in a year or 2 and stay on the same sorry ass browns treadmill.

    Commitment to tanking is the hardest part of tanking.
     
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    But when you can go back and see moves they could have made that would have secured some vital positions for their team... you can easily question the decision to punt and stockpile assets, that in the NFL mean a little less than other leagues.

    There are very few long-term rebuilds in the NFL. Dallas accomplished one in the early 90's by trading Herschel Walker... who was already about to be on the decline. There are even less rebuilds predicated on trading picks that would have been border-line savior QB's.
     
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    Hue Jackson is an OC masquerading as a head coach. He is an extreme example of the Peter Principal. The guy is a very good OC but an absolutely terrible head coach. I bet he's fired after the season by the new GM. Only reason for the Browns to keep him is concluding they will stink again next year no matter who is coach.
     
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    Browns are on the way up, for the first time since the 80s.

    Grossi is such a clueless b****.
     
  18. Air Langhi

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    I thought the whole point was to lose as much as possible and get as many high draft picks as possible. If they had drafted a good qb that would have hurt "the process." Brown only got two years. Even Hinke got 4 years. The NFL probably has most backward set of owners in sports. It is pretty much a good old boys network.
     
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    No doubt, you're spot on. The NBA is also more forward thinking than the NFL in almost every way.

    I think Haslam was satisfied with the amount of picks they have gathered for the 2018 draft. Who knows, maybe there was also some disconnect between Sashi and ownership. We know that kind of stuff happens but fans dont hear about it until later.

    The Browns aren't that far away though. I'm more bullish on the Browns going forward over the next couple of seasons than I am on the Bengals.
     
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    my god im watching the browns/packers game

    and is it normal for the browns to get flagged for bs calls this much

    devante adams clearly pushed the ref and the browns lineman gets flagged 15 yards for it...

    deshone kizer is a talented qb when you put elite talent on the outside for him

    why is todd mcshay willing to throw deshone kizer away when he wasnt willing to do the same for jared goff his rookie year
     

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