literally... in black and white text check your projection IMO there is already sufficient evidence to merit the beginning of hearings (emoluments, etc, among other things). Mueller and treason can be added in at some point, if it needs to be. We don't know everything yet - but what we do know is enough to start the process.
I had already done that and still don't think it's really a high crime worthy of completely dividing this country. We know he lies and had directed others to lie.
what do you actually think is accomplished by impeachment proceedings? especially considering it would not be completed by the Senate?
Actually they were not, The Senate voted not to impeach Clinton and Nixon resigned. And I am not far he does not deserve to be impeached I just don't want 2years of gridlock to try something that we all know would accomplish nothing. let the actual legal court deal with him after 20/20.
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Actually, they were. Impeachment is a procedure that takes place in the House, in which charges are leveled against a government official. Conviction and removal from office is carried out in the Senate. These are two separate processes. Many people incorrectly think that Impeachment means removal from office, but that is wrong.
You know that would not happen, he would be playing the victim card at a rally every week and be fine raising off it. Republican Congress members are slowly starting to try some bipartisanship going on in impeachment would ensure nothing is done in the remaining 2 years. and I ask you what exactly is accomplished by passing impeachment through the House?
So what is accomplished by impeachment through the House? If we can't get a conviction and removal what is the purpose?
I'd much rather humiliate Trump at the polls, but given the latest developments, impeachment must be sought now. Even if it has no chance in the Senate. You can't let obvious crimes go unabated by the highest public official in the country.
That's what the article is about. The process itself has positive outcomes regardless of the result in terms of limiting the damage Trump can do, and is continuing to do every day he remains in office, and that will not magically go away when he finally leaves.
Congress has decided twice in the past that this is grounds for impeachment. Either history and precedent matter or they don't at all. As we've said time and again in the Mueller thread, nobody outside of that office knows exactly what the special counsel has found. However, there is now reporting that says President Trump has committed one of the crimes that Presidents Nixon and Clinton were impeached for. Nixon only resigned because he knew he was going to be convicted by the Senate. Once the American people saw the full extent of his crimes, which came to light as part of impeachment proceedings, his wall of support in the Senate eroded. 30% of the country will go down with the ship. We know that and I honestly don't think anything will ever wake them up to the degradation of the last two years. Should 1/3 of our fellow citizens get to hijack a government that is also supposed to represent the other 2/3? I say no. Impeachment proceedings could help convince the 7% of voters - who routinely push his approval rating up to 40% - and business-minded conservatives that maybe their precious judicial appointments and tax breaks could also be accomplished by a President Pence. That is the purpose of impeachment: removing a manifestly corrupt and unqualified person from the most important job in the world and installing a man like Mike Pence who, whether you agree with his politics or not, has senses of decorum and responsibility to things beyond himself. Impeachment would allow the 7-10% of conservatives who hold their nose and look the other way when it comes to all of President Trump's humiliations to finally drop the facade and allow their senators to do the right thing they've been avoiding all along: repudiate and reject Donald Trump. I'm probably too optimistic.
The Atlantic article posited that the Johnson impeachment (which failed in the Senate) process wise was good for the country. The House went through all of the allegations and impeached on the ones that there was a strong case for. The Senate, a deliberative body, considered each of the allegations. This was a long process that kept Johnson's focus. The process publicized Johnson's transgressions and killed his political future. I am unsure that the impeachment process is a quality idea, if in the end Trump remains in office. Trump's political future is cooked. The Mueller report, the emoluments lawsuit, the Summer Zervos lawsuit, the SDNY criminal investigations, the NY state AG criminal investigations, easy-to-win trade war with China, the government shutdown, etc are a tidal wave of bad publicity.
