Ariza's last foul on Harden should have been an offensive foul?

Ariza was holding him with both hands at the beginning of the play before the ball was inbounded. They didn't call it and both got tangled.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/theJSmiles">@theJSmiles</a> Nope. Ariza had him wrapped up. Harden sold it, but you can't risk that much contact.</p>&mdash; Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/statuses/433808688504397824">February 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/dwalker1985">@dwalker1985</a> It was a foul. Ariza grabbed him with both arms. Harden sold it, but it was a foul.</p>&mdash; Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/statuses/433808534577229824">February 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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don't know don't care.

next topic.

 

It's no secret that Harden locked in Ariza's arm. It somewhat forced Ariza to tumble while Harden fell which even sold the acting job more. Murph called it a savvy veteran move. I am surprised he got the call, but luckily it worked out in the Rockets' favor.

 

That was definitely a foul on Ariza. But Dwight was also moving. His feet were not set when he set the screen.

But whatever. We're bound to have some calls going our way...

 

Even if this was a "tie." Foul calls almost always go to the offensive player.

Then you add the offensive player was a superstar (defensive player was not), it was late in the game, and it was sold. There was no way Ariza was getting this call.

 

I'm happy we won, but I think it should have been a no call, there was alot of contact between both of them. Why would you try to sell a foul like that in the last seconds when refs normally swallow their whistle. You are practically giving up the game at that point.

If this happens in the playoffs, I'm positive there's no whistle and Rockets lose on with Harden crying on the floor.

 

At no point during that play did it look like Ariza was playing NBA defense. He held Harden with both hands the entire time and even gives him a small shove before Harden falls down. Of course Harden embellished the call, but who doesn't in today's NBA?


I expect a bunch of 2012 and 2013ers to disagree, as always.

 

Ariza held him at the start of the play, then Harden turned the tables on him by hooking the arm and forcing the ref to make a call. Veteran moves on both sides.

 

First of all it doesn't make sense for Harden to hold onto Ariza when he is trying to get free for an inbound. The only one holding onto someone is Ariza and that should have been called a foul before they reach Howard.

Harden definitely milked the penalty but only after Ariza held onto him for too much and too long. Ariza is still holding onto Harden after he shoulder charged Howard sideways.

 

Ariza put two hands on Harden.

It was a foul long before they even got to Howard.

 

The Dwight moving screen was caused by Ariza's illegal defense. Howard was unable to set any kind of screen because Harden was being held the entire time.

Rockets fans awlays try to argue against the Rockets on these plays to feel giddy that the officials helped them out when it was simply a foul.

 

Ariza got over aggressive and Harden hit him with the old school veteran hook move. That move has been around for decades. Ariza was fine locking him up, but at some point you have to let go. He put the refs in a bad position. He held on a little too long and Harden got desperate and sold the contact because he knew Ariza wasn't going to let him go in time for him to get the ball and get a good enough look at the basket.

 

Trust me, we would all be screaming at Harden if he did what Ariza was doing. You're the only hypocrite I've seen in this thread so far.

 

Ariza fouled Harden way before they even started moving. You can't grab a guy's arm with one hand and have the other wrapped around their back, and you certainly can't impede their movement by hugging onto them the way Ariza did. Ariza had plenty of time to stop his overaggressiveness, and the refs were letting him go. It wasn't until they got tangled up that the refs were finally forced to blow the whistle.

If refs do not call the foul, they basically bail the Wizards out, and what you get is a ton of people questioning the integrity of the league and the quality of officiating.

 

He had to sell it because the refs didn't call the obvious holding foul sooner. If he hadn't, it would have been a 5-second violation and a turnover.

 

Zach Lowe was right, there was a foul. You can't put both hands on an offensive player (Something Drexler was screaming during the broadcast) unless their back was to the basket and they are close to the basket. Harden just made sure the refs saw it and SAS was right Ariza is a veteran and should have known not to do that in the first place, his hands should be out or up, Harden would not have been able to do what he did unless Ariza grabbed him with both hands.

 

Thank you. Someone understands that's illegal defense in the NBA today.