49ers, Jimmy Garoppolo agree to 5-year, $137.5M contract

He'll earn more than Hakeem did over his entire career.

 

Not sure he is the same guy if he doesn't go to NE.

 

On the flipside there's much more risk in a QB coming off his 2nd ACL (Watson, than there is a QB who has never been hurt and has done nothing but win in the opportunities he's been granted. (Jimmy G.)

BTW, How many starts has Watson made compared to Jimmy G?

 

We will never know, but I sure would've liked the opportunity to not have to go thru the Fitz/Hoyer/Mallett/BO years.

I'm betting Jimmy G would have done well with the Texans. You cant teach a release as quick as Jimmy G's.

 

Jimmy G, has been injured, obviously not as serious, but when brady was suspended, he was injured in his 2nd game, and thats why Brissett played against the texans and the bill in week 3 and 4.

 

True, a minor shoulder injury, with no structural damage.

 

All the hot take experts here said he'd be just as bad as every other past NE backup...

 

Except his issue was that the Texans didn't draft him, not that they didn't sign him. If they had drafted him, he wouldn't have been getting paid and just as young. And they wouldn't have wasted prime years of once-in-a-lifetime guys like JJ Watt. By the time Watson is ready to compete, you'll have to pay or let go other current guys like Clowney as well. Wasting 5 years will be worth it if Watson is your next Manning/Brady type that is a star for 15 years. But otherwise, they lost a ton wasting 5 years of the rest of their roster waiting for him.

Some more fleshed-out thoughts on Jimmy Garoppolo's new contract: It's a nice deal for Garoppolo, especially considering he's only made seven NFL starts. But it's a better deal for the 49ers, and it's not the kind of market-mover for which an unrestricted free agent like Kirk Cousins will or should be looking. Garoppolo gets $41.2 million THIS YEAR (plus another $1.4 million in workout and per-game roster bonuses if he plays every game), which is fantastic. And it's fully guaranteed. But beyond this year, the only remaining guarantee is $7.5 million of his $17.2 million 2019 salary. Which means, if he goes Full Osweiler on them this year, they could get out of the deal for only $7.5 million. Plus, since the signing bonus is so low ($7 million), the cap hit if they cut him in future years won't be that bad. Basically, the Niners, who were projected to have about $100 million in cap space this year, used $37 million of it by front-loading this deal now, when they can afford to pay anything. And if Garoppolo doesn't work out, they can get out after two years or three years or whatever very easily. Further, if he turns out to be great, they'll have him at a very affordable cost in the final three years of the deal.

 

JJ Watt's prime basically started halfway through his rookie season in 2011, when they were still heavily invested in Schaub.

Watson being ready to excel from day one of his rookie year bodes well for future success. Garropolo was going to need 2-3 years of seasoning regardless of which team he went to.

 

Yes, and he won DPOY in 2014 and 2015. Not sure the relevance of when his prime started is to my statement.

Frankly, neither you or I or anyone else have no idea how much seasoning he would have needed. There are plenty of examples just in recent years of players who immediately made an impact in years 1 or 2, ranging from top picks to mid-level picks: Goff, Wentz, Carr, Watson, Wilson, Prescott, etc, often with lots of help from other parts of the team. Garoppolo in his rookie year would have had a top-5 RB, two top tier receivers, and an elite defense surrounding him. You have no idea what he could have achieved.

Regardless, unless we think the Texans' intended plan was to waste a #1 defense and elite talented offensive players and not have a functional QB for the first 3 years of their new "QB-genius" coach, it's hard to argue that they didn't make a mistake not drafting one early because clearly their Plans B, C, D, E, F, and G all failed miserably.

 

By that logic, why isn’t this criticism in a Derek Carr thread? Because that’s the hot young QB that should have been drafted early, and was drafted ahead of Jimmy G.

O’brien didn’t want to commit to a Manziel-like flameout or a high priced free agent right away. We all know that coaches rarely survive a failed drafted QB. Nobody should have survived Osweiler. He only has a job still because of what Watson did.

I think all young QB’s need time to learn, including Brady and Manning. Guys who succeed from their very first start are a rare commodity.

Retrospect “analysis” isn’t really relevant to anything. Criticizing the Texans for not having a franchise QB in waiting in 2013 when Schaub flamed out is pretty revisionist BS. There’s absolutely no expectation that a rookie drafted QB would have excelled the years Watt was great, let alone which rookie QB you were clamoring for.

 

Jimmy G's deal is essentially a front loaded 2 year deal with each year after being a team option. He gets nearly $60 million the first two years when the 49ers have a ton of cap space. After that the 49ers can cut him without much dead cap space.

It's a good deal for both. Jimmy gets a ton guaranteed and the 49ers won't be crippled by a bad contract if he falters or gets hurt.