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3rd Attempt: GOP/Trump Repeal & Replace ACA and Trump lie about pre-exist coverage

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Apr 30, 2017.

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  1. pirc1

    pirc1 Contributing Member

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    MAGA = Make America Great Again = Make America Rich Again = Make the Rich Great!
     
    #1021 pirc1, Mar 26, 2018
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    Perhaps if Democrats and RINOs weren't obstructing his health care agenda, we could see whether or not Trump's polices could lower costs.

    As it is right now, it's stupid to try to correlate rising costs to Trump. Obamacare is still the law of the land. Until Trump is allowed to implement his policies, it's on Obama.
     
    #1022 Aceshigh7, Mar 26, 2018
  3. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    It’s always somewhere and someone else. Sign of great leadership and sheep followers.
     
    #1023 Amiga, Mar 26, 2018
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    Not being to get the job done is Trump's fault. What you are saying is that you guys elected an ineffective president and you are proud of it.
     
    #1024 TheRealist137, Mar 26, 2018
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    Obamacare is nowhere near the same thing as was originally enacted.

    Not funding subsidies
    Individual Mandate gone
    Risk Corridors sabotauged

    Its Trumpcare now
     
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  6. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

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    O M G...

    Former HHS Sec. Price: Repealing the individual mandate 'will harm' people insured through Obamacare
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-repealing-individual-mandate-harm/568281002/
     
    #1026 NewRoxFan, May 1, 2018
  7. NewRoxFan

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    And this...

    Poll finds 4M lost health insurance in last two years
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/health-insurance/385680-poll-uninsured-rate-is-climbing
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...amacare/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b0260c9b6853
     
    #1028 NewRoxFan, May 1, 2018
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  10. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    You mean not requiring people to buy insurance that they don't want is going to result in fewer people buying insurance, and that losing those young healthy people means that those who are using a lot more health care resources are being required to pay more for coverage?
     
    #1030 StupidMoniker, May 1, 2018
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    Correct. Just like intentionally sabotaging ACA by withholding funds and with lawsuits makes it less effective.
     
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    Crazy how not hurting one group by not forcing them to pay for something they dont' want ends up "hurting" another group by making them pay for what they want.
     
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    Diosito would be so proud of you
     
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    Can we make it so if you do not have insurance, hospitals do not have to treat you in ER? We do not need moochers in this country right? Like if you break a leg or have a heart attack etc.
     
    #1034 pirc1, May 2, 2018
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    That's literally the funniest possible response anyone could have managed. Thank you for that.
     
    #1035 Bobbythegreat, May 2, 2018
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    Meanwhile, a 2016 study by the Commonwealth Fund and the Rand Corp. calculated that even the most successful replacement scenario produced an increase in 15.6 million uninsured people, while the most pessimistic would lead to an additional 25.1 million uninsured Americans.
     
    #1036 Astrodome, May 2, 2018
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    A sudden increase in the uninsured in just the short time trump has been in office after years of decline doesn't seem like a good thing to me...

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...are-uninsured-americans-obamacare-republicans

    At the same time, health insurance costs are going up rapidly...

    Why Your Health Care Costs Are Out of Control, in One Graph
    http://time.com/money/4970511/why-your-health-care-costs-are-out-of-control-in-one-graph/

    Actually, Trump is raising health insurance premiums
    http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/17/news/economy/trump-premiums/index.html

    For 2018, Expect Steeper Health Plan Premium Increases
    Jump in group plan premiums is projected to be the largest since 2011
    https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandto...pages/2018-health-plan-premiums-forecast.aspx

    Trump proposal could push health premiums up by $2K for older Americans
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/22/tru...oposal-could-push-2019-premiums-up-by-2k.html

    So is this Making America Great Again that trump was promising?
     
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    Heh...

     
    #1038 NewRoxFan, May 11, 2018
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    New CBO analysis... projects five million more uninsured (5M more than previous estimate) and double digit premium increases... thanks trump!

     
    #1040 NewRoxFan, May 24, 2018
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