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The Increasing Urbanization of the Toyota Center Entertainment Experience

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Aceshigh7, Dec 19, 2014.

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ron413 said: ↑

press play all you haters. RPD's are funky fre$h!

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Thank you for posting this!

OP has issues that he most probably doesn't realize himself.

#261 FANfrom86toNow, Dec 21, 2014

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I have no thoughts on this topic. But I really ****ing hate it when they play "Empire State of Mind" at Rockets games. I don't want to hear about ****ing New York while watching the Rockets...

#262 DudeWah, Dec 21, 2014
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They should be playing this :

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Kwame said: ↑

For the record, I don't think the OP is racist. He just used a poor choice of words to express an opinion.

In other news, I always thought it would be great to have someone like DJ Khaled introduce the Rockets starting lineup and get the crowd hype before a really big game on national tv. We the best!
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I don't know why some people perceives OP's comments as racist - not every conversation that includes race is racist. That's just ridiculous. They should definitely diversify their music selection but OP needs to realize that they will obviously play music that are popular now.

I did hear the Mavs play "This Kiss" by Faith Hill against the Spurs. I thought that was funny.

#265 rockets belle, Dec 21, 2014
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Had to laugh watching the game against Atlanta yesterday (on TV) and thought of this very thread when (I can't remember the name of the song) but I heard a 70's/80's track.
Just thought to myself that the DJ must be a board member here and decided to play that track to keep the original poster happy.

#266 abaker28, Dec 21, 2014
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man when is Kanye West releasing that album?!?!?!?!?!

#267 joeson332, Dec 22, 2014

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Just wanted to add that I was at AT&T stadium yesterday and likely 90 percent of the music in the production was rock music. Just about the only exception was Wiz Kalifa's We Dem Boyz. For those who say the Rockets focus so heavily on urban aspects due to the ethnic makeup of the team and the the players' preferences, let me point out that the majority of NFL players are African-American (~68 percent), and I'm sure there's a pretty good chance guys like James Harden & Tyron Smith must have fairly similar musical interests, being the same age and from the same area. Yet we don't see the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders trying to look all hard and tough and "street" in their routines. They portray a feminine image.

Like other posters have pointed out, this shift in production focus only occurred a couple of years ago, ~ 2013. Prior to that, the arena experience was a lot more balanced, and frankly, more enjoyable. I highly doubt that I went from being a desired demographic to being an afterthought overnight.

Oh, and that RPD video? That one poster is right in that it's definitely one of the elements that pushed me over the edge. It was absolutely pathetic and whatever they were aiming for, they missed. It was not humorous and it was not sexy.

#268 Aceshigh7, Dec 22, 2014
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If you say increasing Urbanization aren't you also implying that they are playing Jazz and Blues.

That Coltrane they play at the stadium is really pissing me off!

#269 ooooaaaah!, Dec 22, 2014
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I wish I had known you were a Cowboys fan. That explains everything.

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Aceshigh7 said: ↑

Just wanted to add that I was at AT&T stadium yesterday and likely 90 percent of the music in the production was rock music. Just about the only exception was Wiz Kalifa's We Dem Boyz. For those who say the Rockets focus so heavily on urban aspects due to the ethnic makeup of the team and the the players' preferences, let me point out that the majority of NFL players are African-American (~68 percent), and I'm sure there's a pretty good chance guys like James Harden & Tyron Smith must have fairly similar musical interests, being the same age and from the same area. Yet we don't see the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders trying to look all hard and tough and "street" in their routines. They portray a feminine image.

Like other posters have pointed out, this shift in production focus only occurred a couple of years ago, ~ 2013. Prior to that, the arena experience was a lot more balanced, and frankly, more enjoyable. I highly doubt that I went from being a desired demographic to being an afterthought overnight.

Oh, and that RPD video? That one poster is right in that it's definitely one of the elements that pushed me over the edge. It was absolutely pathetic and whatever they were aiming for, they missed. It was not humorous and it was not sexy.
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Aceshigh7 said: ↑

Just wanted to add that I was at AT&T stadium yesterday and likely 90 percent of the music in the production was rock music. Just about the only exception was Wiz Kalifa's We Dem Boyz. For those who say the Rockets focus so heavily on urban aspects due to the ethnic makeup of the team and the the players' preferences, let me point out that the majority of NFL players are African-American (~68 percent), and I'm sure there's a pretty good chance guys like James Harden & Tyron Smith must have fairly similar musical interests, being the same age and from the same area. Yet we don't see the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders trying to look all hard and tough and "street" in their routines. They portray a feminine image.

Like other posters have pointed out, this shift in production focus only occurred a couple of years ago, ~ 2013. Prior to that, the arena experience was a lot more balanced, and frankly, more enjoyable. I highly doubt that I went from being a desired demographic to being an afterthought overnight.

Oh, and that RPD video? That one poster is right in that it's definitely one of the elements that pushed me over the edge. It was absolutely pathetic and whatever they were aiming for, they missed. It was not humorous and it was not sexy.
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What did the retention department say?

#272 KlutchQT, Dec 22, 2014
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DOES IT MATTER IS MY QUESTION? DOES IT MATTER?!

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Aceshigh7 said: ↑

Okay, so, this isn't related to the product on the court, but to the actual game day experience at Toyota Center.

We are season ticket holders and have been for several years. We've observed a noticeable shift in the focus of the entertainment aspects of the fan experience. Whereas you used to hear little snippets of rock music as the team would walk up the court, that's almost entirely gone.

Regarding the power dancers, I don't know who is doing their choreography or choosing their routines now vs. years past, but there's been a huge drop off. It seems that nearly every routine now has them strutting around to some rap/hip-hop music and trying to look hard and tough. I don't particularly find it entertaining to see them come out in baggy pants, or doing the booty dancing that's so prevalent in the hood culture. I'm sure somebody involved with them thinks its a good idea but it looks pretty ridiculous to see these power dancers trying to emulate a backup dancer in a rap video.

I'm a supporter of diversity, but please let's be fair to all. Particularly, let's not marginalize those of us that make up the bulk of season ticket holders. My family and I are white and hispanic, and we really feel like, in trying to appeal to those enamored with hip-hop culture, the team has really stopped trying to resonate and identify with us.

Please don't label me racist for pointing these facts out, for it's not a racial issue. Even my successful african-american friends have mentioned that its a bit ridiculous and overboard at times. Successful, mature african-americans that I know are into that type of garbage. It's kind of disappointing that at a time when the team is on an upswing, the arena fan experience has suffered.
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You know that really is unfortunate. Maybe you should go to the movie theater or stay at home and watch a tv show. You won't feel marginalized at all because a majority of the movies and shows will be targeting you and your family.

#274 gmoney411, Dec 22, 2014
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I volunteer at a high school. I played a Pink Floyd song as part of a lesson about "Time". Most of the teens have never heard of Pink Floyd and don't listen to rock music. It's mostly Hip-hop or Country. I'm not a fan of either....it makes me feel old but I deal with it. But(t) I hear you,

These young people today with their hip-hop music and their booty shaking...back in my day we banged our heads, not our booties, and gosh darn it, we liked it !

But you are not a racist for having a musical preference.

#275 benvolio007, Dec 22, 2014
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so i went to the game on saturday..

OP is right. I would say almost 90% of the playlist were hip hop music. There was a couple of rock songs sprinkled in...but it was noticeably different than my previous visits to the toyota center.

Other than that, I didn't see any obvious urbanization or differences in the demographics of the crowd.

#276 Sajan, Dec 22, 2014
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Aceshigh7 said: ↑

Just wanted to add that I was at AT&T stadium yesterday and likely 90 percent of the music in the production was rock music. Just about the only exception was Wiz Kalifa's We Dem Boyz. For those who say the Rockets focus so heavily on urban aspects due to the ethnic makeup of the team and the the players' preferences, let me point out that the majority of NFL players are African-American (~68 percent), and I'm sure there's a pretty good chance guys like James Harden & Tyron Smith must have fairly similar musical interests, being the same age and from the same area. Yet we don't see the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders trying to look all hard and tough and "street" in their routines. They portray a feminine image.

Like other posters have pointed out, this shift in production focus only occurred a couple of years ago, ~ 2013. Prior to that, the arena experience was a lot more balanced, and frankly, more enjoyable. I highly doubt that I went from being a desired demographic to being an afterthought overnight.

Oh, and that RPD video? That one poster is right in that it's definitely one of the elements that pushed me over the edge. It was absolutely pathetic and whatever they were aiming for, they missed. It was not humorous and it was not sexy.
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LOL.....you are bigot.

You want to know why the RPD and most dance team use this music, dance like they do? You should check out dance competitions at the youth and high school level. Hip Hop Dance is what being taught because the girls' love it. There are Tens of Thousands white girls doing these dances to that music.

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#277 Mr.Scarface, Dec 22, 2014
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LOL.....you are bigot.

You want to know why the RPD and most dance team use this music, dance like they do? You should check out dance competitions at the youth and high school level. Hip Hop Dance is what being taught because the girls' love it. There are Tens of Thousands white girls doing these dances to that music.
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Those videos are very sad. Sexualizing children like that is harmful to them and everyone involved. This is bad for human beings.

#278 benvolio007, Dec 22, 2014

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Aceshigh7 said: ↑

Hey, I'm all for revealing outfits and sexy dance moves. I just don't find those rap and hip-hop dance moves particularly feminine or sexy.
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Going back to the beginning of the thread, OP said...

Aye, I don't find plump women sexy, but some people do. Different stroke for different folks man. Basketball has been tied to hip-hop culture for as long as I can remember. It's just like at a Texans game, they always play rock music. Well, except I saw on the broadcast this week they actually have Turn Down for Watt now? haha

As far as their routines, the RPD ringleader is Natalie the former RPD right? I imagine she has a big say in the routines they are doing.

Man, I don't care what they do, I just wish we could get a full arena.

#279 EssTooKayTD, Dec 22, 2014
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I agree that the RPD dance numbers are a bit over-sexed, however i enjoy that.

I like lots of genres of music including rock and rap. The fact is that at the end of 2014, the top 40 Billboard has changed from what it was in the 80's so it may be time for Aceshigh to adjust to the year that you are living in.

Your comments mixing diversity, hood rats, and garbage are thinly veiled and you come across as quite racist.

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