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Joe Biden makes yet another racist comment

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Aug 6, 2020.

  1. nacho bidness

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    He's definitely said some clumsy things but I haven't gotten any hateful tinge from his remarks. He basically said black people are unified and have solidarity while Latinos do not. As a latino, I find this to be correct but he shouldn't have said it lol. Saying you're not black if you vote Trump is a little harder to defend even though I do agree voting Trump is against most minorities self interest. So in the end, yes, they have very good reason to hide him. There's a lot he doesn't get but I like I state earlier, I don't find him malicious like that meme. That's typical humor you find in right wing circles.
     
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    I agree. NYC was a perfect example because of the massive subway and train network. That, and major international hubs for flights, mass commuters, and a huge tourist hot spot. The city was a nightmare situation in every way.

    Oh, and actually some people on here do say we are doing a good job right now, compared to NY. They always throw that line in at the end, and discount our deaths as great numbers compared to NY. Sad really, when we have over 1,000 dying a week.
     
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    I agree. Not all countries actually make you fill in your ethnicity / race on all government forms, or even non-government forms. It shouldn't matter. We need to stop classifying everyone into a million categories and just call all our citizens Americans.
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    According to census.gov

    Reasons for Collecting Information on Race

    Information on race is required for many Federal programs and is critical in making policy decisions, particularly for civil rights. States use these data to meet legislative redistricting principles. Race data also are used to promote equal employment opportunities and to assess racial disparities in health and environmental risks.
     
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  7. deb4rockets

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    He sounds nothing like a racist to me. He stands up for injustice and suffering, where Trump doesn't.

    Here's an old example. His history of standing up for people of color goes way back.

     
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    It's not a Dem manufactured wedge at all.

    It's in our country's DNA...scotus rulings and all.

    Dems were either forced to admit it or have accepted it. Republicans who are "color blind" and don't admit that history are only perpetuating the cycle of an unjust and unmoving system.


    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2010/12/one-drop-rule-persists/
    Biracials viewed as members of their lower-status parent group

    The centuries-old “one-drop rule” assigning minority status to mixed-race individuals appears to live on in our modern-day perception and categorization of people like Barack Obama, Tiger Woods, and Halle Berry.

    So say Harvard University psychologists, who’ve found that we still tend to see biracials not as equal members of both parent groups, but as belonging more to their minority parent group. The research appears in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

    “Many commentators have argued that the election of Barack Obama, and the increasing number of mixed-race people more broadly, will lead to a fundamental change in American race relations,” says lead author Arnold K. Ho, a Ph.D. student in psychology at Harvard. “Our work challenges the interpretation of our first biracial president, and the growing number of mixed-race people in general, as signaling a color-blind America.”

    In the United States, the “one-drop rule” — also known as hypodescent — dates to a 1662 Virginia law on the treatment of mixed-race individuals. The legal notion of hypodescent has been upheld as recently as 1985, when a Louisiana court ruled that a woman with a black great-great-great-great-grandmother could not identify herself as “white” on her passport.

    “One of the remarkable things about our research on hypodescent is what it tells us about the hierarchical nature of race relations in the United States,” says co-author James Sidanius, professor of psychology and of African and African-American studies at Harvard. “Hypodescent against blacks remains a relatively powerful force within American society.”

    Ho and Sidanius, along with co-authors Mahzarin R. Banaji at Harvard and Daniel T. Levin at Vanderbilt University, say their work reflects the cultural entrenchment of America’s traditional racial hierarchy, which assigns the highest status to whites, followed by Asians, with Latinos and blacks at the bottom.

    Ho and colleagues presented subjects with computer-generated images of black-white and Asian-white individuals, as well as family trees showing different biracial permutations. They also asked people to report directly whether they perceived biracials to be more minority or white. By using multiple approaches, their work examined both conscious and unconscious perceptions of biracial individuals, presenting the most extensive empirical evidence to date on how they are perceived.

    The researchers found, for example, that one-quarter-Asian individuals are consistently considered more white than one-quarter-black individuals, despite the fact that African Americans and European Americans share a substantial degree of genetic heritage.

    Using face-morphing technology that presented a series of faces ranging from 5 percent white to 95 percent white, they also found that individuals who were a 50-50 mix of two races, either black-white or Asian-white, were almost never identified by study participants as white. Furthermore, on average, black-white biracials had to be 68 percent white before they were perceived as white; the comparable figure for Asian-white biracials was 63 percent.

    “The United States is already a country of ethnic mixtures, but in the near future it will be even more so, and more so than any other country on earth,” says Banaji, Richard Clarke Cabot Professor of Social Ethics at Harvard. “When we see in our data that our own minds are limited in the perception of those who are the products of two different ethnic groups, we recognize how far we have to go in order to have an objectively accurate and fair assessment of people. That’s the challenge for modern minds.”

    The team found few differences in how whites and non-whites perceive biracial individuals, with both assigning them with equal frequency to lower-status groups. The researchers are conducting further studies to examine why Americans continue to associate biracials more with their minority parent group.

    “The persistence of hypodescent serves to reinforce racial boundaries, rather than moving us toward a race-neutral society,” Ho says.​
     
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    How many people knew that Homer Plessy was 7/8ths white?

    The underlying case originated in 1892 when Homer Plessy, an "octoroon" (person of seven-eighths white and one-eighth black ancestry) resident of New Orleans, deliberately violated Louisiana's Separate Car Act of 1890, which required "equal, but separate" train car accommodations for white and non-white passengers. Upon being charged for boarding a "whites only" train car, Plessy's lawyers defended him by arguing that the law was unconstitutional. He lost at trial, and his conviction was affirmed on his appeal to the Louisiana Supreme Court. Plessy then appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, which agreed to hear his case.

    In May 1896, the Supreme Court issued a 7–1 decision against Plessy ruling that the Louisiana law did not violate the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, stating that although the Fourteenth Amendment established the legal equality of white and black Americans, it did not and could not require the elimination of all social or other "distinctions based upon color". The Court rejected Plessy's lawyers' arguments that the Louisiana law inherently implied that black people were inferior, and gave great deference to American state legislatures' inherent power to make laws regulating health, safety, and morals—the "police power"—and to determine the reasonableness of the laws they passed. Justice John Marshall Harlan was the lone dissenter from the Court's decision, writing that the U.S. Constitution "is color-blind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens", and so the law's distinguishing of passengers' races should have been found unconstitutional.

    Plessy is widely regarded as one of the worst decisions in U.S. Supreme Court history.[5] Despite its infamy, the decision itself has never been explicitly overruled
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    Just to add to the above post there was also the case of US v Bhagat Singh in 1923 who sued to claim that he was White and therefore eligible to be a US Citizen, since at that time the US was only naturalizing White immigrants as citizens. The USSC ruled that while Bhaghat Singh was Aryan he wasn't "White" and they based it on what the common perception of "White" was which didn't include someone from India.
     
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    What do you see in this picture?

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    There was an early dig about Kamala's mom lying that she was White on Kamala's birth certificate. Putting Asian Indians into America's racial hierarchy apparently was a mess back then.

    The census even classified them as White in the 70s.

    Third Worlder First World Problems?
     
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    @Os Trigonum
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    Stephen A don’t want Joe
     
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    Lord have mercy
     
  17. pgabriel

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    I haven't read the whole thread and don't remember this "controversy " but in terms of diversity, but Blacks are really monolithic because our history in this country as we are aware of it starts with slavery. It is an overwhelming presence in our political and cultural identity where Latinos for instance are more diverse in their identity because they identify with their origins before here. Blacks understandably relate so much of our history to the struggle for civil rights.
     
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    Did the real pgabriel get back control of his account?
     
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