Do you Agree? - Bomani Jones implies Steph Curry no superstar, 'best system player' ever

He is def a superstar and I despise the system argument. Why would you not create a "system" that brings out the best qualities of the best player on your team??

 

Steph Curry is the system. This is the same as the nonsense we hear about harden not being clutch.

 

Mahmoud Abdul Rauf is the best Shooting Point Guard, I have ever seen. Rauf destroyed Stockton overrated defense with 50 Points, Rauf Destroyed the Bulls 73 Win Team, broke the Bulls Win Streak by himself, Literally Destroying Michael Jordan Overrated Defense.

 

He named 4 guys (Durant, Lebron, Kwahi, Giannis). Giannis doesn't even have a championship. Durant didn't get one by himself. Kwahi got one with Spurs (system no?) and one with Toronto where the opposite team lost Durant and Klay. So the only player with results is Lebron. Even he couldn't do it by himself. He needed Wade, Bosh, Kyrie etc.

Every player is some type of system player. You still need shooters, defenders, and team players around them.

 

Bomani Jones is a east coast crack head.

Bomani Jones is vegan dude weighing less than 150lbs.

Don't ever mention that crack head with that high voice.

 

You have to consider what Draymond would be without Curry and Thompson. He'd still be an elite defender, but his "playmaking" would decrease considerably. Do you really think he'd be an all-star on other teams? Especially the 2020 version of Draymond whose defensive prowess had regressed?

Russell is nothing special. That's why he's been on 4 teams in 5 years. Also, his skill-set was a poor complement to Curry's.

Curry isn't a traditional superstar. He's not the floor-raiser like Harden is. However, paired with another all-star, I think he's a superior ceiling-raiser. For instance, I think Curry/K.Thompson is more formidable than Harden/K.Thompson. And Curry/CP3 more than Harden/CP3.

 

draymond would be ben simmons without klay and curry

 

I disagree. If I'm counting on you as a superstar then you don't need a team full of other superstars for us to not be garbage. Players like Russell and Green are good support players next to a superstar. No, they can't carry a team but you put them next to a superstar and the team should be ok.

I disagree. Put Curry on our Rockets teams with CP3 and we may go lotto with CP3 only playing 58 games and him having to carry the load with a squad that doesn't have anyone else even as good as Draymond or Russell. I think Curry/Klay s more formidable based on how their skill sets mesh, in the right system, but not because Curry is better.

 

People fail to see that Currys shooting numbers looking good because he is playing next to Klay( a guy who has shown he can go off for 60). Curry is not getting the full defensive attention like Harden, or Lebron get. Teams just cant focus on Curry and forget about Klay, we saw that early in this season when teams were 100% focused on Curry( they handled him pretty easily before his "injury") and his shooting numbers looked nothing like they usually are. You give Harden Dangelo Russell and Draymond and he leads them to the playoffs easily. I would even say dangelo russell might even be a better fit next to Harden than even Westbrook, because his shooting gives Harden more space to operate

Harden had a 66 TS% his last year in okc, because he was playing with Durant and Russ. So Harden wasnt the main focus of teams defensive attention, so he got to dominate single covered most if not all nights. Thats similar what Curry has been afforded his entire career.

 

Goodwill is a borderline GSW schill. Bomani is normally low on Rockets, but this being a GSW topic only. Little surprised he called Steph out. He's not saying Steph isn't good, just saying he flourishes more under specific systems.

 

I disagree about Green. Look at his offensive skillset. What can he do that makes him special? Sure, he's a great passer for a PF, but how does his passing compare to a SF? Nothing special, right?

And you're overrating Russell. He was only an all-star because of Oladipo's injury. There's a reason he's been on 4 teams in 5 years.

It's a Curry-centric system. If only a handful of players can successfully run the system, then it's the player, not the system.

CP3 and Curry would be great together. Curry is one of the best off-ball players in the league, and CP3 was one of the best ball-dominant players in the league. They would certainly mesh better than CP3/Harden which was essentially "your turn, my turn, your turn, etc..."

 

Ben Simmons is 4 inches taller than Green. That's why he's a much better finisher and playmaker.

 

Why don't you check out Curry's shooting percentages before Klay joined GSW?

Since Draymond can't shoot and his defense was underwhelming this year, how do you envision his role on the Rockets?

 

Curry might be a glass cannon but he's definitely a generational talent.

The biggest question is if he'd still be a "superstar" if he had peaked earlier and signed a supermax with his first extension rather than for 11M/year? Worrier cap freedom paved the way for everything else...

 

One knock other than his half assed Defense, is that this system does not elevate his playmaking and assist stats.

He sure is a superstar that likes to play off ball.... a non ballhawk is rare.

 

Haha, it is funny.

To be a heavy usage player or not.
Hogging the ball or playing smart positioning.

Curry made it possible, his leadership is by design.
He did find great teammates, but his personality of not getting into personal beefs while still being able to share the limelight with other players is spectacular.

Most unique, he reminds me of Tim Duncan but a showboating version.

He seems so cool off the court and so full of energy and arrogant on it.

He also found a great partner in crime in Ayesha who seems perfect for life.

 

Which "superstar" can win all by himself and does not benefit from talented teammates? Even Michael Jordan couldn't have won without the right pieces around him.

 

when has proven this. he has never won a finals mvp. while others on his team with him has.

 

hakeem...dirk. thats about it lol

 

he gets hid n protected alot on the court.