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Peter Navarro: Blowing up at Fauci in the time of Corona

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  1. adoo

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    about which the only thing Navarro knows is that he doesn't understand it

    traitor george keeps on giving, providing another epic eg of his ignorance
     
  2. jiggyfly

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    Some of them did die from trying those drugs.
     
  3. shorerider

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    While I agree that manufacturing needs to be brought home and that the government of China needs to be shunned by the rest of the world, this dude Navarro is an absolute fruitcake. What a gong-show this has turned into. Congress needs to make law that anyone being sworn in as President must first pass an "I am an adult" certification test.
     
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    https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2091443

    Scientists may have found a treatment for a deadly new coronavirus — which causes severe, acute respiratory symptoms — first diagnosed in a patient from Qatar in September.

    The treatment, a combination of two already-approved antiviral drugs, has been tested so far only in cells in lab dishes, according to the study in Scientific Reports.

    But authors say they're encouraged to have any data to offer doctors. The SARS-like virus has been diagnosed in 17 people and has killed 11 by causing severe pneumonia and sometimes kidney failure.

    Scientists found that a combination of the antiviral drugs ribavirin and interferon-alpha 2b can stop the virus from reproducing in lab-grown cells, says lead author Darryl Falzarano of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease's lab in Hamilton, Mont.

    That's particularly encouraging, because these drugs, now used to treat hepatitis C, are widely available, says Anthony Fauci, director of the infectious-disease institute, which financed the research.

    "We don't have to start designing new drugs," a process that takes years, Fauci says. "The next time someone comes into an emergency room in Qatar or Saudi Arabia, you would have drugs that are readily available. And at least you would have some data."

    Even though the treatment hasn't gone through definitive trials, Fauci says, "if I were a physician in a hospital and someone were dying, rather than do nothing, you can see if these work."




    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-is-anecdotally-effective-against-coronavirus

    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo touted the efficacy of a drug repeatedly supported by President Trump as a possible treatment for the coronavirus.

    During a Monday press briefing, the Democrat gave positive feedback on the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine to treat patients diagnosed with the COVID-19 virus. According to Cuomo, the drug was paired with the antibiotic Zithromax at the discretion of the hospitals.

    “The tests in the hospital, they’re too short a period of time to get a scientific report,” Cuomo said. “Hospital administrators, doctors want to have a significant data set before they give a formal opinion. Anecdotally, you’ll get suggestions that it has been effective. But we don’t have any official data yet from a hospital or a quote-unquote study, which will take weeks if not months.”

    “There has been anecdotal evidence that it is promising; that’s why we’re going ahead,” he continued.
     
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  5. Rashmon

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    I always read them in the old Stephen Colbert voice from Comedy Central.
     
  6. Astrodome

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    I think we all expect some internal bickering. Isnt there a fauci thread?
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Don't give him too much credit, he's not a serious economist and his only policy achievement is a disastrous "good and easy to win" trade war with China that is nearly 3 years old.
     
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    Does anybody remember that GOP senator going off on John Kerry "pretending to be a scientist" and that he wasn't allowed to have an opinion because he wasnt a real scientist while Kerry repeatedly told him he had a bachelor's of arts in political science and he wasn't using that to pretend he had scientific authority.

    Good times.

    I dont mind Navarro having an opinion. I do mind him thinking his economics PhD gives him authority here.
     
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  9. Commodore

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    Navarro has been on this from the jump, unlike Fauci

     
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    He hasn't been the leading expert from the jump unlike Fauci. Navarro is waaaaaayyy out of his league, again, unlike Fauci
     
  11. hooroo

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  12. HROZ

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    Lol
     
  13. biina

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    Only a moron like you would think a quack economist should be debating medication for a virus with a renowned immunologist
     
  14. Deckard

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    You are touting Peter Navarro “being on the jump?” He was, in a memo circulated in the West Wing on January 29th. Make a note of the date, please. Yes, January 29th, when trump was saying the threat from the Coronavirus, “was nothing.” I’ll be interested to see if you and the other trump supporters here suddenly turn on Mr Navarro.

    Here’s a quote:

    By Maggie Haberman
    • Published April 6, 2020 -
      updated April 7, 2020, 12:46 a.m.
    A top White House adviser starkly warned Trump administration officials in late January that the coronavirus crisis could cost the United States trillions of dollars and put millions of Americans at risk of illness or death.

    The warning, written in a memo by Peter Navarro, President Trump’s trade adviser, is the highest-level alert known to have circulated inside the West Wing as the administration was taking its first substantive steps to confront a crisis that had already consumed China’s leaders and would go on to upend life in Europe and the United States.

    “The lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on U.S. soil,” Mr. Navarro’s memo said. “This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.”

    Dated Jan. 29, it came during a period when Mr. Trump was playing down the risks to the United States, and he would later go on to say that no one could have predicted such a devastating outcome.

    newyorktimes.com
     
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  15. Nook

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    They were arguing about science and Navarro isn’t a scientist.
     
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    They weren't arguing about economics. They were arguing about whether its safe to recommend hydroxychloroquine.
     
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    If the plumber was suggesting something that would require the house to be rewired, i'd be inclined to want both their opinions for the most cost effective opinion to go forward.

    But generally speaking, study methodologies across fields tend to be fairly uniform in process, economists though do tend to be a bit ermm, impersonal?

    That media person though is also grossly misrepresenting what Navarro is saying, he at no time suggested that he should be treating patients, he's simply talking about his opinion of the efficacy of the study.
     
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  18. NewRoxFan

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    No... this only shows that navarro and anyone that saw navarro's memos was aware of the impact of Coronavirus. Of course, what trump and others publicly said to the American people now appears to even more of a lie and they own greater responsibility for having sat on this, for not responding sooner (instead, allowing months to go by before acting). Months that we could have responded sooner. Months that we could have been better prepared.
     
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  19. bongman

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    the electrician can chime in on his opinion but wouldnt it be unreasonable to take his opinion with the same value as the plumber?
     
  20. adoo

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    the dizzying height of ignorance
     

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