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Just on CNBC: Tilman might be forced to sell

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TilmanFinancialWindfall, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. J.R.

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  2. lnchan

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    I am Republican (heck, I even ran as a Republican) that thinks that this administration could have handled things far better.

    But back on the topic... Tilman will go all Phoenix Suns fire sale on this team. He will make Cal McNair look like a great manager.
     
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  3. HROZ

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    The only thing Biden has said about Trump's handling of the Coronavirus that has been racist is him calling it the Chinese virus. Which has led to some American nationals of Asian descent feeling excluded from American society. (Ie the huge drop in Revenue at Chinese restaurants)

    Biden has called Trump a xenophobe because he is (ie Charlottesville/birther). The point Biden was making is we need a president we can trust not one with Donald's history.
    People trying to repackage that as w comment on the China travel ban, when he doesn't even mention that are just fake news.

    Also it's obvious a lot of Democrats have also not realised the severity of the moment. New York with its transient population being the most obvious.

    In Australia it's actually the richer suburbs & those with large tourist population that are having the most issues with Coronavirus. Tourist locations for obvious reasons and richer population as they are the most likely to travel overseas for work or pleasure.
     
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    https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...us-state-governors-best-worst-covid-19-159945

    It's not a criticism against Republicans. For instance, the governor of Ohio implemented social distancing shut downs before any other state. This was even done with criticism aimed at the governor from the President himself. The President could federally mandate social distancing protocols for all 50 states to enforce right now but isn't. There are still states whose governor hasn't issued social distancing protocols, and we have states caught in bidding wars over medical supplies because of a lack of preparedness on a federal level. We're all Americans. Why are our state legislators having to outbid each other to best help their constituency? Who does that benefit other than the private companies that produce medical supplies and people who have stock invested in those companies? Aren't we supposed to all be in this together?

    The twitter gotchas on NY officials do show Democratic leadership downplaying the severity of the virus early on, but were also quicker to change their tune as well. They also aren't responsible for lack of adequate testing still or lack of medical equipment being disbursed at a federal level, since some state's medical supplies are almost all exhausted. None have a daily platform to go on in press conferences that reaches out to an audience bigger than the President. Nor do they have the administration who should have better intel on a national crisis than administration whose main concern is that on a state level.

    It's holding politicians with less power to a higher standard than the leader of the free world. The President should be the bar that other government officials strive for. Instead, the bar is set so low for this President, we hold posters on a basketball BBS more accountable to share as accurate as possible information about the virus, than the President himself. I literally trust certain strangers online that share whatever info they've found about the virus on this basketball forum more than the POTUS. That's sad. Very sad.
     
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  5. HROZ

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    A) I mean i feel like there's idiots on both sides but, I haven't heard a good argument for why Trump has done a good job. While I've heard multiple reasons why Trump has done a bad job. (late on testing / not taking WHO kits / late on social distancing / no clear message / not listening to the experts)

    B) Owning a NBA team I believe means making a loss yearly, that the owners cover. In theory if things go back to normal, casinos & restaurants make money.
     
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    Literally none of these things have anything to do with the Trump Administration's laundry list of epic fails regarding COVID19. For ****s sake, you know what was a COVID19 petri dish? Not Chinatown but Trump's fundraiser at Mar a Lago with that dimwit uncle****er Bolsonaro - after the crisis was out of control but you idiots were calling it a "hoax"

    The elimination of Pandemic preparedness offices and plans, the refusal to admit reality, the idiotic and dangerous "advice" that is peddled daily, the utterly humongous failure to do testing at all played a much bigger role....the travel ban was too little, too late and not really even enforced. COVID19 was already here and some guy complaining on CNN doesn't change the fact that it was too late and not enforced anyway.

    You own this fail. All the way.
     
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    If he doesn't sell and goes on the phoenix suns route, he and his family will be one of the most hated families in the Houston area. People will then put Les over Tillman after that.
     
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    South Korea has a population of over 50 million people. A huge scale to organise.

    The issue appears to be Trump wanted to use made in America testing kits that took forever to organise. When there were kits ready already.

    I don't understand you're argument can you please clarify?
     
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    It's holding politicians who wield far less power than the POTUS to a higher standard than the POTUS, in order to deflect blame.
     
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    Please clarify how mass testing and isolating over 300 million people would be the black and white problem solver. Once you can explain feasibly how that would be done then you would probably understand the “argument”
     
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    300 million?

    We couldn't mass test 300 people.

    Korea didn't run millions of tests of their whole population, the ran ten thousand dayin the right place We couldn't even run 100 the same time.

    It wasn't because we had too many people to test, it's that the government failed at the highest levels and continues to do so and the cost is going to be your job, your house and maybe your life.
     
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    so like I originally said option 1 wasn’t even realistic to begin with
     
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    With Trump? No. With Obama or Biden...or anybody with a fully staffed government that relied on expertise and takes things seriously? Not only was this possible but it actually happened with respect to previous outbreaks.

    Hell Mike Pence is better equipped for this **** when he's not watching crush films on a Tor browser, and he's a lying fool.
     
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    Doubt it. You look at how it is now and you still don’t have people that take this seriously. No way are you doing so beforehand no matter who it is
     
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    Do you remember the Ebola National lockdown of 2014?

    No?

    Maybe the H1N1 mass dieoff of 2009 where major hospitals were destroyed?

    No?

    That's right because we had an Office of Pandemic Preparedness in the it NSC andwas listened to and we acted accordingly. And we had a government staffed by professionals and not sycophants and idiots and we didn't ****ing delegate National security to Obama's son in law

    That office was shuttered in 2018 by guess who. And that's just beginning of the fails

    Did you say YOLO to yourself if you voted for Trump? It was prophetic if you did, amirite?
     
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    I mean if we're really going to do this, if I was Trump and had reacted to this late by say mid-March, I'd shut down international flights across all major cities, implement federal social distancing protocols for all 50 states to enforce, and have a federal reserve of medical supplies sent to states being impacted the hardest like NY, stop bidding wars among states vying for medical supplies while also researching which states are suffering the least amount of shortages in medical supplies and healthcare workers.

    I'd then offer those healthcare workers whose temporary loss wouldn't impact their local community's ability to respond to emergencies pay raises and cover their lodging in Trump hotels if they would be willing to work in communities being impacted the hardest by this epidemic. And if they would be willing to continue to do that as the wave inevitably spreads to other states who will need all they help they can get to best manage local healthcare crisis. I'd offer other state healthcare workers the ability to earn more, if they're willing to travel and risk their lives to help treat this epidemic.

    I'd also research compartmentalizing any healthcare responsibilities that could could be trained to temporary new hires that healthcare workers like doctors, nurses and respiratory nurses have to deal with that are time consuming for them, so they can then focus their attention on the patients. For instance, I don't know that I would trust a new hire phlebotomist to draw blood, but if you could compartmentalize manual labeling of lab specimens to new hires and train them to label correctly, perhaps that's a time consuming activity that opens up essential medical staff to other duties that's more important. I wouldn't go on a daily presser and accuse medical staff risking their lives of hoarding medical supplies and being thieves.

    I'd stop contradicting my epidemiologists and medical experts during daily press briefings and give an honest outlook of the situation at hand instead of peddling contradictory lies that then get pushed out to various media outlets.

    I'd also nationalize healthcare for the roughly 40 million uninsured Americans, specifically for Covid-19 treatment, some of who will require medical care to survive, if they're lucky enough to not be one of the many casualties swept up by this epidemic. Even if you do die, and are uninsured, the medical bill will still be footed to next of kin. Could still deny nationalizing healthcare for patients that are uninsured who don't require Covid-19 treatment I guess, if you don't want to go full blown humanitarian and still be a hard ass conservative even.

    I also wouldn't appoint my son in law to be responsible for finding a solution to peace in the Middle East, much less handle a global epidemic. I'd actually hire experts and would echo their knowledge when asked by reporters in daily press briefings.

    Also, I'd definitely ramp up testing and specifically gather as much data as I could on people who test positive for Covid-19 and are asymptomatic. I would then request these specific people donate their plasma, and ramp up production of plasma donations on a national level as these people's immune system found a way to combat the virus without it killing them or leaving permanent scar tissue to their respiratory system. Their body's found an immune system response to the virus, whose antibodies could be used on patients that require hospital care.
     
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  17. YOLO

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    Lockdown in 2014? Nah cause there was no lockdown here
     
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    Because we had expertise and professionalism and a commitment to duty

    Now we have looters, grifters and idiots, and the hilarious result is thousands dead and millions of unemployed. Burn it down! Oops now what.
     
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    Nah it’s cause Ebola doesn’t have the level of spread covid-19 does, leaving the level of outbreak extremely limited. It wasn’t about being proactive at all
     
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    I'm very happy with the job the POTUS is doing leading the nation through these tough times.

    Can you imagine if Hildawg/Bernie/Biden were in charge and didn't shut down people coming in from China after 10 days. To think the POTUS was called racist for this stance be the MSM. Lets take this to the political forum if you truly want to have a discussion about this.
     
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