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Fascist tries to kill civilians for political beliefs/Most media ignores it

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by dachuda86, Feb 12, 2020.

  1. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Contributing Member
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    you made a guess about my education. it's hard to take you seriously.
     
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    are you claiming to have a PhD in political science?
     
  4. Os Trigonum

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    yes
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    btw on the "right" vs "left" question you might be interested in taking a look at this

     
  6. foh

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    No wonder we keep getting long reading assignments from you.
     
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    then why do you define fascism while ignoring one of its most well known tenets - that some groups of people are superior to other groups vs socialism which believes in egalitarianism. Fascists believe in their self superiority which gives them the right to dominate and take control of not just their nation of other nations through militarization.

    Ultranationalist which is a basis of fascism is rooted in a historical myth of the greatness of a past identified with a racial group. (Make America Great AGAIN ring a bell or sound a dog whistle?) and that is fundamental to how most historians define fascism.

    if you have a PhD in political science this is a debate you should embrace but instead you seem offended and a desire to obfuscate. Care to explain the disconnect in your position, Professor?
     
  8. AleksandarN

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    I wonder what’s his take on Social Darwinism.
     
  9. Os Trigonum

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    there is no disconnect. Recall I offered a "broad" definition:

    You seem to want to keep insisting on narrow definitions. That's fine, but that's your problem, not mine. I used the example of eco-fascism to illustrate the point--you seem either to have missed that point or ignored it. This example is a context almost entirely divorced from the specifics of the "self superiority which gives them the right to dominate and take control of not just their nation of other nations through militarization" (etc etc) that you emphasize. See for example:

    eco-fascism.jpeg


    so again, your lack of understanding of what a "broad" definition consists of is your problem, not mine. with all due respect.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    eco-fascism isn’t a form of govt but it does involves militarization which is why fascism is attached to it. It is literally using violence to force obedience to its philosophy and about the superiority of those who believe in that to the point it justifies violence against those who do not. You ignore this in your broad definition
     
  11. Os Trigonum

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    fair enough
     
  12. AleksandarN

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    I am curious O what’s your take on Social Darwinism?
     
  13. foh

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    How do you stay so chill? What's your secret?
     
  14. dachuda86

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    You have finally grown tired of saying nothing. Got it.
     
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    The people, in communism, are the nation... that is why all communist movements become ultranationalistic. It doesn't matter what the marxist sales pitch says about revolution. It is the actual communism that inevitably takes place that matters. Plus there are definitions of fascism that don't need nationalism at all.. so this argument is fruitless for you.
     
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    can you give an example of eco-fascism by the way?
     
  17. dachuda86

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    I didn't say that... strawman... you misread my points and are now misrepresenting them. Go back and see I said political violence and I explained why that is important.

    Also good. I wouldn't want Adam Schiff killed? That's terrible.
     
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    You could come here and say those things yet you just lunge at me. Interesting.
     
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    but they are but nationalistic. the point of communism is to renounce the past and renounce nationalistic ideas abs in practice they have generally done this. Socialist societies Believe in equalitarianism while nationalist ones belongs in one group being superior to another with the right to dominate the other.

    how do you resolve that contradiction?
     
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    Encyclopedias and dictionaries are a great tool still, especially in the age of the Internet when everyone thinks they are an expert. I wish more people here would read them. All of what I said was backed up with sources yet people here just shoot from the hip with single definitions they themselves are creating. People need to relax and go back and read up on these things they are so sure of, because I see a lot of people who have incomplete grasps of political terms and of history.
     

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