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If you're in charge, do you let Gerrit Cole walk or pay him?

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Prediction 1: Cole is leveraging New York for a bigger LA deal. He wants LA more.

Prediction 2: Astros beat either team he ends up with.

#1041 Handles, Dec 9, 2019

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Initial reports following Strasburg's deal indicated Cole could get as much as $300 million for more years and a greater average annual value than what Strasburg got. Agent Scott Boras, who represents both Cole and Strasburg, knows how hot the market is for a pitcher of Cole’s caliber and age (29) with no history of significant injuries. If Strasburg, who’s 31 and had Tommy John surgery, could net such a deal from the team that drafted him and he likely had little interest in leaving, it’s hard to put a cap on what Cole will get with heavyweights bidding on him.

MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reported the “Cole goal” (a Boras-ism at its finest) was a deal of 9-10 years worth at least $300. Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweeted that a nine-year, $324 million deal for Cole ($36 million per year) probably would “not be a bad over/under,” and that he would take the over.

If we assume Cole is going to get a larger AAV than Strasburg, his contract would be more than $315 million for nine years, and more than $350 million if it’s a 10-year deal. If it’s the former, Cole would be the first pitcher, and fifth player ever to reach the $300 million threshold, and he’d be the only one to do so with less than 10 years. The latter would make Cole the second highest paid player in MLB history, behind Mike Trout (12 years, $428.17 million).

Either way, it’s clear Boras won’t go for anything less than $300 million for Cole, certainly not any time soon. Boras knows the market for Cole is hot, and he also knows that demand will only increase as each of the other top free-agent pitchers sign....
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https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/12/10/gerrit-cole-contract

#1042 The Real Shady, Dec 9, 2019
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juicystream said: ↑

Max Scherzer...

Despite CC Sabathia being terrible for a couple of years within his big deal, hard to say it didn't workout given that they won a WS (with him being ALCS MVP) and he was really good for about half of that deal.

It is definitely rare that it does work out, but there are also good examples of still being able to ultimately move the player for assets even if you have to include some money (Greinke & Verlander). Then there are dumpster fires (Chris Davis, Albert Pujols, Ryan Howard).
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wow Chris Davis, that's gotta be one of the worst of all time

#1043 KePoW, Dec 9, 2019

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I don't think Cole is coming back. Personally, I didn't care for his press conference right after the World Series. The Astros will come up with a replacement. Season's like he had, may not be repeated.

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https://nypost.com/2019/12/10/gerri...inter-meetings/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

So the Astros are one of the mystery teams?

Nm. See already posted.

#1045 LonghornFan, Dec 10, 2019
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Astros showing interest in Cole = qualifying offer in agent speak.

#1047 The Real Shady, Dec 10, 2019

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Boras once got a team to bid against itself not just once... but numerous times on the same free agent. I don’t think teams are phased by him at all anymore.... hence his reliance on the media trying to stir up controversy.

#1048 Nick, Dec 10, 2019
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At this point, I really don’t care where GC go to except for Yankees. Really hope none of the LA team step up and outbid or match Yanks offer. I can’t wait to hear from yanks fans on social media if they don’t land Cole.

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Seriously !???

Well he’s not worth that. We can do a lot with $36M/yr . But f*** the Yankees

#1051 CisBuds4U, Dec 10, 2019
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WT*. Crazy money

#1052 AznH-TownFan, Dec 10, 2019
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Did I read 324 million per 9 years? That's insane. Congrats to Cole. What a change his career took after leaving the pirates.

... Oh yeah. And **** the Yankees.

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Going to need to have a JV-like run to stay dominant for that long... but he deserves the money.

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Sad to see him go but congrats to him!

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Looks like the stros will have to beat the Yanks in 7 games instead of 6 now

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I wonder how many managers will Cole have during the 9 years. Way too much to pay for a pitcher, it is going to be a Red Sox problem.

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I wonder how many managers will Cole have during the 9 years. Way too much to pay for a pitcher, it is going to be a Red Sox problem.
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Yeah I mean committing that much money to a pitcher for that long is insane. It may work for a few years but the run Cole had with Houston of 19 straight wins is highly unlikely to be ever repeated. Shoot— we had Cole for two years and he couldn’t win us a WS - nothing is guaranteed... but yeah, the yanks are back to being the evil empire

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What does that make their payroll?

#1059 arkoe, Dec 10, 2019
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CisBuds4U said: ↑

Yeah I mean committing that much money to a pitcher for that long is insane. It may work for a few years but the run Cole had with Houston of 19 straight wins is highly unlikely to be ever repeated. Shoot— we had Cole for two years and he couldn’t win us a WS - nothing is guaranteed... but yeah, the yanks are back to being the evil empire
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Yanks have so much depth and in their infield as well. If they sign Correa as well in a few years man oh man. I'd fkin be on sucide watch.

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