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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

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  1. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

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    Keep hope alive.
     
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    read what these pencil-pushing worms did to a decorated combat veteran, it will make your blood boil

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/more-bombshells-from-the-flynn-prosecution.php


     
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    What does John Kerry have to do with the Mueller investigation?
     
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    Deep state, bro. Deep state.
     
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    it’s amazing, right? It’s not the obvious crime that’s a problem. It’s that people discover and prosecute the crime. I guess the same folx would have stood up for Capone when pencil-pushers got him on tax evasion.
     
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    even Lawfare seems to be poking fun a the winding down of L'Affaire Mueller

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/roger-stone-trial-whats-left-mueller-investigation

    Roger Stone’s trial was always going to be a show. The longtime political consultant and self-described “agent provocateur” has been known for years for his flamboyant tactics. What’s more, the Stone case was as close to a “collusion” trial as the Mueller investigation was going to get. Stone is charged with lying to Congress about the nature of his connections to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange regarding hacked DNC emails, lying about his contacts and coordination with the Trump campaign about WikiLeaks, and pressuring a witness to his activities to lie. The trial should be a big deal. And in anticipation of the crowds of expected journalists, politicos, bystanders, gawkers and protestors, the court had set aside two overflow rooms—one for the general public and one for the media.

    But the show turned out to be something of a bust—or, at least, the ticket sales were disappointing.

    Ninety minutes before the trial’s opening on Tuesday, Nov. 5, fewer than 10 people waited awkwardly outside the courtroom of Judge Amy Berman Jackson. A few journalists and spectators eventually trickled in, along with members of the far-right media. These included the controversial Milo Yiannopoulos—who is apparently writing a book about the trial—and Gavin McInnes, founder of the far-right Proud Boys group. But it wasn’t enough to fill the courtroom. The defendant himself stayed quiet, speaking only to waive his right to be present for jury selection, as he had apparently come down with a bout of food poisoning.

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    The broader public doesn’t seem to care anymore. The country paid attention to the Mueller report for a while, but after Mueller’s testimony and an anticlimactic reaction from Congress, that interest, at least in the mainstream media, seems to have faded away. While Congress continues to litigate for the Mueller report materials and testimony from witnesses in that investigation, it hasn’t been front-and-center in the impeachment inquiry, whose attention has migrated west, from L’Affaire Russe to L’Affaire Ukrainienne. The Democratic candidates aren’t really talking about it either.​
     
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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign CEO Steve Bannon delivered potentially damaging testimony on Friday against Roger Stone, describing communicating with Trump’s longtime adviser about WikiLeaks despite Stone’s later denials and saying he believed Stone “had a relationship” with the website’s founder.

    Bannon testified that he had viewed Stone as the “access point” between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks, which disclosed numerous stolen Democratic emails in the months before the 2016 election that were damaging to Trump’s opponent Hillary Clinton.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...of-longtime-trump-adviser-stone-idUSKBN1XI290
     
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    I don't think it's accurate to say that "the broader public doesn't care" anymore about the Mueller/Russia scandal. In the end, it's the same story with Trump. It's a continual pattern to outsource political campaigning to hostile foreign powers, or foreign powers for which you can extort with leverage.

    The biggest difference is now with the Ukraine story, Trump has used his office as president to try and pull off this scheme which multiplies the level of corruption to new heights.

    "The broader public" absolutely has an interest. It's just that they are looking at current events of the same story essentially instead of re-litigating past elements like Wikileaks. Most people are focused on protecting 2020's election than they are about 2016. That's really all that's changed in the focus on Trump/Russia that has changed since the Mueller report dropped.
     
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    It's funny how the threat of a fine and/or jail time will get people to testify.
     
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    LOL

    I have heard this talking point quite a bit..... this odd narrative that "pencil pushers" ruined this wonderful decorated war veteran and how we should all be angry.

    Do you know what makes me angry?

    When someone that has served his country decided that he will betray his country for money (helping Turkey with intelligence gathering) and then would lie resulting in harm to his country.

    Flynn is a disgrace.
     
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    Yet if popular interest has faded among those opposed to the president, there’s still enough interest in the far-right media constituency for Yiannopoulos to write a book about the trial and for Tucker Carlson of Fox News to spend time on his Wednesday evening show smearing Judge Jackson. Conspiracy theorist and Stone ally Alex Jones went on a tirade against a potential juror who had worked for the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) during the Obama administration, calling her a “minion of the left.” He even flashed a picture of a former OMB employee on the screen, alleging it was the potential juror. (It turned out he had the wrong person.) The supporters of the president with the largest microphones are using them to discredit this trial, even as his opponents have largely moved on.
     
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    wrong thread
     
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    That's an interesting read.
     
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    Roger Stone Guilty.
     
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    Trump has a lot of former friends to pardon.
     
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    Or, Trump doesn’t know them.
     
  19. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Can someone help me understand Trump’s circle featuring so many convictions, guilty pleas, etc?

    is it “just process crimes”, or “deep state attacks”, or “just a few bad apples”, or “gotta break some eggs to make an omelette “?

    I’d seriously like to understand. Because I think the look is terrible and troubling.
     
  20. larsv8

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    There is not much to understand. Republicans, Trump, and Republican operatives are corrupt. Mueller was assigned to investigate and the legal obligations of people investigated is too tell the truth. When you don't tell the truth, its a crime. Roger Stone lied and now he is going to Jail. There is no such thing as a deep state or a process crime.
     
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