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[Syria] US Troop Withdraw

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    None of the 1000 troop went home. A few dozen of them were ordered out of the path of Turkish force, redeployed within Syria. The consequences of that is Kurds dying, ISIS freed.

    Is a beautiful trump tower worth so much?
     
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    Stupid Kurds. Should have known better than to think we'd forget their betrayal at Normandy.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Our word as a country means nothing under ****WIT Trump.

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    we all know that the majority of trump supporters were also bush and iraq war supporters 15 years ago. these are the people who said if you were against bush and the iraq war that you were unpatriotic.

    then they support trump, who said the iraq war was a huge mistake and now are cheering him on while he abandons the kurds, who stood by the united states throughout all of this.

    its nothing short of immoral.
     
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    Alberto Miguel Fernandez
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    Don't know about Normandy, but actually some of the ethnic groups being shelled today in NE Syria did fight on the allied side in the Second World War, against pro-Nazi Iraqis in 1941 and throughout the war. It is a tenuous but very real connection through the "Iraqi Levies." 1/3
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  8. DaDakota

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    Trump is Putin's puppet, he owes them so much money, he is funded by them......we should be going after his taxes....harder.

    DD
     
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    Well, Dan, maybe you should start speaking up more against the guy that made the decision instead of constantly deifying him.
     
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  11. Dubious

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    The responses to Dan are about 50/50, 'no more endless wars' and 'we are abandoning war allies', all from conservatives it looks like.

    Tough issue for them.
     
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    Thoughts and Prayers? Does that help?
     
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    Russians surely fought against Nazi in WWII. big ally. no collusion
     
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    More puppetry...

     
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    Just a general post because I see a lot of people on the left and right getting it completely wrong when it comes to Turkey and the Kurdish terror groups they are battling.

    The fighting Kurds are terrorists who actually are anti-arab and ethnically cleansed the territories they took. Key word. TOOK. They are no freedom fighters and they did not own the land they are stealing. They are not a country, and they do not deserve your sympathy. Across the border they routinely launch terror attacks, killing innocent people. Turkey, a regional power and NATO ally who is housing 3.6 million syrians want to resettle them in their homeland. They don't have the resources to HOUSE THEM FOREVER. They also have a huge Kurdish, not just Turkish, population that is fed up with the PKK AND YPG recruiting their kids for terror and getting them killed, which is basically the same movement but they switch names for convenience.

    The action the Turks are taking is justified and the plan is actually sound. House the refugees in their homeland once stabilized and stop a terrorist state from popping up on your southern border which would only embolden them to begin causing trouble in Turkey; not to mention Iraq and Iran. The number of ignorant people painting this as a Turks bad Kurds good narrative are spinning the most ignorant narratives I've seen in a long time. The kurds were a temporary convenience for the USA which used them as ground troops for an Obama war that he was too scared to go all in on. The tactic of arming terrorists has been a policy the US has used for ages and is nothing new. But it is contentious to arm a group that directly affects our ally Turkey.

    The Kurds routinely practice genetic mutilation on their girls and often engage in polygamy. Fine people I am sure. They also are pushing for a communist ethnostate. AN ETHNOSTATE. Do I really need to say ethnostates are bad? Say what you want about communism, which is awful, but ethnostates are completely different in how awful they are.

    Anyone here pushing BS for the terrorist Kurds and bemoaning the US govt for "abandoning" them, is woefully ignorant of the reality in Turkey and in Syria. They are not romantic freedom fighters. They are terrorists who don't represent all Kurds. They stole the land and are not even trying to hold territory. They never had territory to begin with and it's not people who even lived there. The fighters are just terrorists who flooded in from surrounding areas. And I will say it again: they ethnically cleanse and will no longer let people return to their homes. The Turks don't want a Kurdish terror state on their Southern flank and as NATO allies we need to back them instead of condemn them.

    Supporting the Kurds was a questionable and wrong decision from the start anyway. Also the Turks are being worn thin by 3.6 million people which is taking jobs from Turks, undercutting wages, and stressing their social system. Not to mention raising the costs of everything. They want to actually build homes for these people and return them home. This is a far more noble cause than the Kurdish terrorists, who are stealing land that never belonged to them in the first place. I want people to imagine they got kicked out of their home, and are now being stopped from returning to their land. To their house. Yeah, this minority of the Kurdish who are essentially terrorist ethnostaters sound like a real great bunch of heroes.

    Don't trust the media on this because most of them don't even pronounce Ankara correctly. They are not telling you anything accurate about Turkey or Syria.
     
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    People in the same trench fighting people cutting off civilians heads are OK in my book.
    The ethnic, geographic and political situations are confused and overlapping. Propaganda and cultural shaming are all part of the conflict and we don't know the truth. But we do have soldiers on the ground within their ranks and I think they know the truest nature of it. From what I've read, I don't see any of them saying Syrian Kurds aren't worthy of support.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/10/kurds-syrian-democratic-forces-us-donald-trump/
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-syria-isis-war-iraq-trump-column/3917818002/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/world/middleeast/trump-turkey-syria-kurds.html
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/turkey-syria-invasion-special-forces-soldier-kurds
     
  17. justtxyank

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    We are sending thousands of troops to the Middle East today to reinforce our long time Allies that stormed the beaches of Normandy and helped liberate Auschwitz, the Saudis. I believe there is a monument in Paris that recognizes all the Saudi lives that were lost liberating France and the Low Countries from the Nazi rule.
     
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    To all American citizens: thank your lucky stars the world doesn’t have the will to take on your dirty establishment. Make no mistake: since it’s early beginning, it has been responsible for most conflict around the world and allowed to have tremendous debt. If the same rules applied to the US as other nations, you would be one of the poorest countries in the world and your power greatly diminished. It’s a miracle the world puts up with your bullying, meddling and war hungry attitude.
     
  19. jiggyfly

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    And why should we believe any of this?

    Did these Kurds aid us in the fight against ISIS?
     
  20. WNBA

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    You got it correct on Kurds.

    Turks are not terrorists but they do have strong relationship with ISIS. Both sides are bad boys. Anyone think US should spend trillions here to hold peace between two group of Islam terrorists on enemy Syria's land is beyond delusional.
     

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