Who faced tougher defenders/defenses? Jordan or Harden? Debate/Poll

I’m all for giving Harden his due
But not for stuff he hasn’t earned
And definitely not dissing the greatest decade known to mankind

Without 99ers this place wouldn’t exist
You would have to mix it up scumbags in realgm

@Os Trigonum

 

The 90s were better dude
This board was created in the 90s.

@Jontro

 

Harden would average the same 29 ppg he’s been averaging since he came to Houston

Harden is 1 of the strongest guards of all time

Harden is 1 of the most creative players of all time, and his level of craftiness is all time great as well

Harden is 1 of the best ISO players of all time

Harden is a very good shooter and hits contested jumpers with a man in his face consistently with ease...he’s had 33 4 point plays in just the past 2 seasons

I’m sorry, but people really need to stop acting like Harden would be affected in any significant way if he was playing in the 90s

Tell me how many players could realistically check him? Other guys who were easily worse than Harden as a scorer had to face Shaq, Ewing, and whoever in the paint and did fine. Harden would dominate. He’d be the 2nd best scorer in that era behind MJ, no question. Harden already plays a 90s type game with the heavy ISO and constant driving to the rim, he just replaces ISO midrange jumpers with ISO threes.

 

We finally found Morley's burner account!

 

You missed the point
Clutchfans wasn’t created because someone wanted to compare decades and players

It was created because of a pure reason that was based on a pure event

Unpure fans don’t understand this

@Jontro
@Os Trigonum @Rocket River

 

Put any Hall of Famers from the 90s going up against Curry or Harden and they will be D-leaguer. Those big guys cant play today games like back then.

 

If there was a hand check rule, we’d miss 60 three pointers in a row

Dream would have destroyed everybody in the low post in any decade

plus @Clutch in any decade would create a pure rockets site for pure fans only

@Os Trigonum

 

Tinman got out the soap box

 

@Os Trigonum
People are still wearing shoes from the 90s

all you millennials are just busy being jealous

truth hurts
And I’m not talking about that fat chick song

 

This thread is not about harden

It’s about jealousy

straight up Gin blossoms
@Rocket River

 

the biggest difference between now and the 90s is the lack of spacing plus not understanding how to be efficient...teams didn’t understand spacing the court and routinely had 2 bigs on the court trying to post up plus a perimeter player or 2 that wasn’t really an outside threat (especially from deep where most teams didn’t value or look to even really attempt the 3)...guys just launched from midrange

people need to stop it acting like there were all these amazing defenders back then while today’s era has a bunch of bums on D...

there’s only a select few defenders that would’ve noticeably bothered someone like Harden, especially when he has them on an island in ISO situations

Hand checking? Lol, please. Harden is a master of using his off-arm and body to shield the defender away. Hand checking doesn’t work on Harden.

Harden would smoke these 90s defenders with the greatest of ease. Harden ain’t Giannis who would be significantly affected by the lack of spacing back then. Harden can create stepback threes at will regardless of who else is on the court with him, and he’ll hit them at a good clip. Harden’s size, strength, and craftiness will allow him to still get to the rack no problem despite the lack of spacing. He will still get his 10+ free throws, and he would still get his 29-30 ppg. When you’re 1 of the greatest scorers this league has ever seen, u will DOMINATE any era. People need to gtfoh with this over-glorification of defense back then acting like Harden wouldn’t get bucket after bucket. Stop it...

 

When in the future, your grandson is laughing at you when you try to explain to him how Harden can hang in the new NBA with 6 pointers and no defense rule, we will appear next to your nursing home bed as Jedi Ghosts and laugh at you, like really loud

then the AC breaks down and it's 200 degrees outside since the ice caps melted cause your generation screwed up the environment. We would start laughing again at you sucker millennials and then you realize you brought it on yourself when you dissed the 90s

you dissed yourself

@Jontro

 

exactly

 

These millennials have never been hand checked by Vernon Maxwell

 

Today’s defenses are better, and it’s not even close. The 90’s kids defending MJ in this thread were children when hand checking was allowed, and never actually played against it.

You’ll never convince them, simply because they remember the era in a certain way. It doesn’t matter how wrong they are, because they aren’t arriving at their conclusions logically.

MJ was amazing, and probably the best ever considering how much better he was than his peers. Are the defenses better today? Absolutely.

 

There is no defense today.