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Mavs closing in on Jordan

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by justtxyank, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. TMac'n

    TMac'n Contributing Member

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    Although I don't want the Mavs to go after Capella, deep inside I hope Deandre burns Cuban again.

    Just for $hits and giggles
     
  2. J.R.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/sports/deandre-jordan-mavericks.html

    The Dallas Mavericks are actively exploring trade possibilities with the Los Angeles Clippers and the former All-N.B.A. center DeAndre Jordan in hopes of finding a workable deal to acquire Jordan this week, according to two people familiar with the discussions.

    Three years after Jordan’s controversial decision to back out of a verbal commitment to sign with the Mavericks — choosing instead to stay with the Clippers — Dallas is spending the final few days before the start of free agency trying to execute a trade for Jordan, according to the people, who were not authorized to discuss the trade talks publicly.

    Jordan has a deadline of Friday at 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time to decide whether to invoke his player option for next season, which is valued at $24.1 million. If Jordan decides to opt in, Dallas can trade for him before free agency begins Sunday at 12:01 a.m., with the veteran swingman Wes Matthews and his $18.7 million contract likely to be the centerpiece of any offer.

    If Jordan decides to pass on the option, Dallas would be forced to try to sign him in free agency. Other potential frontcourt targets for the Mavericks in that scenario include the All-Star big man DeMarcus Cousins of the New Orleans Pelicans and the restricted free agent Clint Capela of the Houston Rockets.

    The Clippers have granted permission to Jordan and his New York-based agent, Jeff Schwartz, to explore trade scenarios with other teams as they weigh the pros and cons of opting into the final season of Jordan’s current contract, according to the people. The All-Star guard Chris Paul made a similar move with the Clippers a year ago, opting into the final season of his contract as a prelude to his trade to the Houston Rockets just days before he was to become an unrestricted free agent.

    Since last week’s acquisition of the prized Slovenian teenager Luka Doncic in a draft-night trade with Atlanta — setting up Doncic and 20-year-old guard Dennis Smith Jr. as the franchise’s new young cornerstones alongside the scoring forward Harrison Barnes — Dallas has made no secret of its need to address its center void in free agency.

    “July 1 is right around the corner,” Mavericks Coach Rick Carlisle told local reporters after the trade to acquire Doncic. “We’ll address it.”

    In July 2015, one of the wildest episodes in league history unfurled over social media. Jordan, days after verbally committing to sign in free agency with the Mavericks, instead agreed to stay with the Clippers. Several of the biggest names in the Clippers’ organization — led by Paul and his fellow All-Star Blake Griffin, as well as Coach Doc Rivers and the owner Steve Ballmer — traveled to Jordan’s home in Houston to stay with him on the night of July 8, 2015, until he signed a new contract with L.A.

    Jordan played collegiately at Texas A&M but has been reviled by Mavericks fans ever since the about-face. Dallas officials, however, have moved on from the snub and see Jordan’s rebounding and defensive prowess as attractive complements to the core they’re assembling as the franchise prepares for what is expected to be the final season for the future Hall of Famer Dirk Nowitzki.​
     
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    steddinotayto Contributing Member

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    What are the odds that DeAndre declines his player option, with the assumption that he'll get traded to Dallas, only to see Jerry West ship his ass out for better assets to a team, like, the Bucks?
     
  5. kwakmeister

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    0 because a decline of player option means hes a UFA. He won't be part of the Clippers to be traded.
     
  6. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

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    Declining the player option means that he's not opting out.

    The misconception that players "opt in" to a last year is not even true. They can opt out yes, but it's "declining the player option (to be a UFA)" is the correct terminlogy.
     
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    I'd be OK with this deal because it might give the Clips enough assets to persuade SA to send KL there instead of to the Lakers.
     
  8. Vivi

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    Still feels odd that DeAndre didn't opt in yet.
     
  9. justtxyank

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    Actually aren't there two different types of scenarios?

    There is a player option which a player can pick up (opt-in) at the end of the contract.

    There are also early termination options which is opting-out.
     
  10. J.R.

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    My understading is that a player option is for the player to decline that last year of his contract to become an UFA so when a player "opts out" of a player option, he's opting out of that last year. There's not need to "opt in" to the last year because it will exist without any further action.

    Regardless, my initial scenario is where DeAndre is still under contract for that last year :)
     
  12. Vivi

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    Looks like the Mavs don't want to get screwed by Morey again lol....or maybe Clint is getting traded :eek::D
     
  13. justtxyank

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    This is all semantics but it's fun to get into the nitty gritty of the CBA when we have nothing else to discuss lol.

    So based on this, if you have a player option you can opt IN for another season. If you have an ETO you are opting OUT of your existing contract.
     
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  14. steddinotayto

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    It truly is semantics but I agree nothing else to talk about :)
     
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  15. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    For argument's sake, if the Mavs trade for DJ in an opt in and trade, what are they trading? They could take DJ into space. Or they could send back Wes Matthews. Which then of course would leave the Mavs still with cap room.

    But the Clippers have no use for Matthews. What are the Clippers getting back of value here? And the Clips dont want to clog up their cap.
     
  16. Vivi

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    Was wondering the same, the Mavs have no assets whatsoever, i guess the Clippers might be ok with a couple fo 2nd rounders here, not sure how much value DeAndre has with that contract, maybe it's pretty low.
     
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    Clippers could ask for a protected 2021 1st round pick. (DAL 2019 goes to Atlanta, protected 1-5).
    That's probably what I would do if I was the Clippers.
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...y-target-becomes-free-agent-according-sources

    The Dallas Mavericks have made center DeAndre Jordan their primary target as free agency nears, league sources told ESPN.

    Jordan, who infamously spurned the Mavs in 2015 free agency after making an oral commitment to come to Dallas, has a deadline of 11:59 p.m. ET Friday to make a decision about the player option that would pay him $24.1 million next season.

    If Jordan declines the option with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources say the Mavs plan to aggressively pursue him in free agency, which begins Sunday. The interest is mutual, according to league sources, as hard feelings from three years ago have been forgiven.

    The Mavs made adding an established center their clear priority after trading for European swingman Luka Doncic, the No. 3 pick in the draft. The Mavs, who could have more than $25 million in cap space if they decline the $5 million team option on Dirk Nowitzki (who would be re-signed at a reduced salary), are one of few teams with significant salary-cap space this summer.

    Other intriguing centers include unrestricted free agent DeMarcus Cousins of the New Orleans Pelicans and restricted free agent Clint Capela of the Houston Rockets, although the Rockets are likely to match an offer for Capela.

    The Mavs have been in communication with Jordan's agent, Jeff Schwartz, but a trade fit with the Clippers is problematic, according to league sources.

    A deal with Dallas would almost certainly send shooting guard Wesley Matthews to the Clippers. Matthews is due $18.6 million in the final season of his contract.

    Dallas does not have the ability to include a first-round pick in the trade due to giving up a protected first-rounder to the Atlanta Hawks in the deal for Doncic.

    Matthews' salary is significantly larger due to a promise the Mavs kept after Jordan decided to renege on his commitment and return to the Clippers in 2015.

    Mavs owner Mark Cuban offered Matthews as much money as Dallas could pay him, pending Jordan's decision, believing that getting Matthews on board was key to wooing Jordan. The Mavs got a commitment from Jordan the next morning when Cuban and Chandler Parsons, the then-Dallas forward who was acting as the franchise's recruiting chairman, surprised the center with a visit to his Los Angeles home.

    Matthews' contract would have been four years, $57 million if Jordan joined the Mavs. Matthews got a maximum deal -- four years, $70 million -- after Jordan backed out and returned to the Clippers following a wild, controversial day.

    The Mavs were enraged by how Jordan handled the situation but are willing to forgive and move on three years later. They believe Jordan, a dominant athletic and physical presence who turns 30 next month, would help a young core that includes Doncic, point guard Dennis Smith Jr. and forward Harrison Barnes as Dallas hopes to fast-forward its rebuilding process and contend for a playoff spot this season.

    Jordan, who averaged 12.0 points and 15.2 rebounds for the Clippers last season, is well suited to play in Carlisle's offensive system, which relies heavily on the pick-and-roll.
     
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